Feb. 6, 2019

Embrace the skin you’re in with Taryn Brumfitt

Embrace the skin you’re in with Taryn Brumfitt
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Season 3

Taryn Brumfitt is on a global crusade to end body dissatisfaction. She talks to Cass Dunn about why she is so passionate about helping women to love their bodies and regain their joy for living. Taryn is a best-selling author, director of the ‘Embrace’ documentary and founder of the Body Image Movement.Connect with Cass:www.crappytohappypod.comhello@crappytohappypod.com 
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Transcript
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A listener production.

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Hi, you're listening to Crappy to Happy and I'm your host,

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Cas Dunn. I'm a clinical and coaching psychologist, mindfulness meditation teacher,

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and author of the Crappy to Happy books.

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In this series, we.

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Look at all the factors that might be making you

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feel crappy and the tools and the techniques that will

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help you overcome them.

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In each episode, I introduce.

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You to interesting, inspiring, intelligent people who are experts in

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their field, and my hope is that they will help

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you go from crappy to happy. In today's episode, I'm

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talking to Taran Brumfort, who is a fiercely passionate woman

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about helping other women stop hating their bodies and learning

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to love the skin they're in. She's the founder of

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the Body Image movement and director of the internationally acclaimed

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Embrace documentary. I was so happy to have the opportunity

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to talk to Taran and to help spread her message

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of self acceptance and self love. If you have ever

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struggled with body image issues, and I know that ninety

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percent of women do, then I think that you were

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going to take something really positive away from this conversation.

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So here she is the wonderful Tarran brumfet tarrant for

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anybody who is not aware of who you are. And

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I think you're you're known globally now, but the backstory

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for you, just briefly, is that back in was it

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twenty thirteen you posted an unlikely or unconventional before and

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after shot.

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Yeah.

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Sure. So after I had my three children, I ended

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up hating my body and I tried to get my

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body back.

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That's what so many women are told.

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To do to get your body back, and I did everything.

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Nothing worked.

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I was going to have surgery and I was going

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to have a breast augmentation and tummy tuck, and I

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booked it in. It was all scheduled, and then I

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had this epiphany, which was, how am I going to

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teach my daughter Mikayla to love her body if I

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can't love mine? And if I have surgery, what will

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that do for the relationship she has with her body?

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And I will say this point, if anyone's listening and you've.

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Had surgery, you have botox, half.

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Of my friends do. There's no room for judgment in

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this body image movement. So it's this is my body,

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They're my choices and your body, your choices. But so

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I canceled the surgery. But I was still plagued with

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the thought what does it feel like to have the

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perfect body? So I said to my trainer at the gym,

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I said, all right, I want a bikini body, and

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she goes, I'll train you enter a bodybuilding competition. I

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was like, I am not doing that, And then before

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I knew it, I was doing it and eating chicken

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and broccoli and training and obsessing and calories in, calories out,

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weighing myself and I got I guess for me, which

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was I guess a near perfect bikini body. And I

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got up on stage in this silver bikini, teeny tiny

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bikini thing and they can only be described as a

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porno shoes, you know, those platform like you need to

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see the picture to really still understand. Yeah, stiletto is

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a little bit more so than that. But got on

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stage and there I was in that body that I

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had wanted my whole life, and all I thought was, Oh,

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this is way too hard. I cannot sustain this lifestyle

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for the rest of my life. So I decided that

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my body was not an ornament. Is the is the

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vehicle to my dreams. It's the vehicle in life. And

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I got off stage and a few months after I

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put the weight back on, and some people had been

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speaking to me, some friends had said, tarring, you've.

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Put weight back on, but you seem so happy. How

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can this be?

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And that was the inspiration for that very sort of

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casual I'll just do a reverse, you know, before and

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after photograph, and it just went crazy viral, didn't it,

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Like over one hundred million views in that first twelve months.

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I mean it was at that stage I was working

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as a photographer, I had three young children. I'd never

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ever done a media interview. It was just life changed

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in that moment.

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And I'm really.

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Grateful that it has because it's given me a platform

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to talk about what is a really important subject for

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lots of women, and to now talk about, you know,

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the practical strategies and how we can move beyond hating

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our body.

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And I'm really curious about when that happened and that

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went global, and I remember that and for a lot

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of people that could have just been well, almost like

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a viral internet sensation that just died overnight, you know,

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was forgotten just as quickly.

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But you just ran with it, didn't you.

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Well, you know that came from a sense of frustration

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as well. I mean, I spent a lot of time

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doing media interviews around the world, TV interviews, and I

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remember getting three or four minutes to talk about my

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story and it was treated like a viral sensation, Internet sensation,

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and it really frustrated me because what people didn't know

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was that I had received over seven thousand emails and

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messages from people all around the world after they saw

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that before and after photograph, sharing their stories of misery

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and heartache and heartbreak about how they felt about their body.

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So I felt this real responsibility, I guess to do

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something with all of that pain and see if we

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can work together and open up conversation and find some solutions.

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So yeah, it was a frustrating time for me. It

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was a new kind of world doing all these media interviews.

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I remember in the beginning, I was so nervous, like

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I can't talk on TV, I can't do this. I

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was nerve racking, right, it just is not my life.

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But I just had to sort of pull my socks

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up and get on with it. And I really love people.

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And that sounds a bit weird, right, I love people,

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but I do I just know, really, I just know

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how it feels to hate your body. And I spent

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years feeling feeling like I was sidelined in my life

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and unable to do a myriad of things because of

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the hatred that I felt. And I guess it's just

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not We don't have to buy into the messages that

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tell us we should be something other than what we are.

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We can choose an alternative.

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So and that's the message I spread now, and it's

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you know, there's this momentum that's gathering of women going Yep, I'm.

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Done with hating my body. I'm going to choose the alternative.

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One thing that I was really intrigued about with your story,

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and I think it's worth talking about, is that you

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first of all, considered surgery, and then you decided, you know,

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for good reasons and for your own reasons, that that

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wasn't an option for you.

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And then you went.

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Down the healthy inverted commace path of clean eating and

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training and bodybuilding and all of that, which often is

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seen as being a really admirable thing to do, to

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be disciplined and train and focus on your health, But

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for you, these were both manifestations of the same thing,

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which is hating your body.

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I think that happens a lot.

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I think that there are people out there who are

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very focused on being fit and healthy, when really that's

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coming from a place not of self love, but of

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on my self punishment, or just a core belief that

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their normal body is not enough. It's not attractive, it's

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not ideal, it's not what they want. How do we

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help people to pull that apart, to recognize where some

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of those so called healthy behaviors may be coming from

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not a healthy place.

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It's funny because the first part of your question I

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was thinking about when I was training for the bodybuilding competition.

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I remember walking through the school yard and having mums

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come up to me and tell me how inspirational I was.

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You're so inspiring.

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And I used to walk away and scratch my head

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and thought, hang on, I'm the same person I was

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twelve months ago.

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I've just lost some weight.

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How messed up is that that now all of a sudden,

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weight losses become inspiring to people. And I actually think

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there's a real lesson in that for all of us,

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that we do not talk about someone's weight loss or

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weight gain ever, it's not something that we should be

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congratulating people on because what happens is we see people

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who go on these transformations, they lose weight. Everyone's like, yay,

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well done you, and we know the cycle. They ninety

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five percent of the time when you diet, you put

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the weight back on. So what happens when that same

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person's walking through the school yard. Are they less inspirational?

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Should they hang their head in shame because they've put

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the weight back on. So I'm always telling people forget

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about weight loss, weight gain. I don't care how many

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kilos you are on the scales. My interaction with you

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is about a conversation. It's about an energy exchange. It's

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about the laughter we share, it's about the times we

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spend together.

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It's got nothing to do with kilos.

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I do think that people we are a little lost

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on their fitness and their health journey. Yeah, because I

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think there's a level of obsession that's now there's a

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layer of this obsession that's added to wanting to be

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healthy and fit. There's nothing wrong with having goals and

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there's nothing wrong with saying, yeah, I want to have

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lots of energy. So my kids have to keep up

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with me, or I want to run a marathon. I

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say that because I've just announced yesterday I'm running a marathon.

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So I'm trying to get my head around actually saying

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the words I'm running a marathon.

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I saw that on social media. Oh we'll get to that.

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Yeah, Oh do we have to. I'm very excited.

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I think we can have these goals, but we need

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to really sit in the space of how we feel

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about the level of obsession and the amount of time

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we spend thinking about.

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Say, how a particular part of our body looks.

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Yes, let's talk about that. When you talk about the

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amount of time we spend obsessing about how we look.

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You know, I've seen some research that says ninety percent

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of women across every age group. This was a US

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study that came out where they looked at women who,

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you know, what your current body type is, what you

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perceive it to be, and what your preferred body type is,

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and ninety percent from the age I think it was

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from fifteen up till eighty had a vast significant discrepancy

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between their current body type and their preferred body type.

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And so what that does, which you know as well

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as anybody, is that it takes all of this energy

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and mental energy away from all of the other things

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that we could be doing in life to bring us joy.

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Yeah, that's right, it's and it's it is. It is

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wasted energy.

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And I sometimes think about all of that collective energy,

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and especially being a woman in twenty nineteen. I mean,

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what are year twenty and eighteen was? And we haven't

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even really hit our straps yet because so many of

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us as so yes, let's rise up, let's stand up,

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let's use our voices, let's disrupt, let's do all this.

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But on the side going oh god, I hate by

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Selly Lighton, I'm going to put this cream on my

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face to take away the lines on my face.

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You know.

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So we've got a long way to go.

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But I'm actually really excited by all of that energy

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that we've wasted because there is an alternative. And I

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think this is one of the things that people in

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my experience over the last six years have found. The

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best outcome of embracing your body is having this energy,

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is having that mental energy and clarity, and it allows

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you to pursue other goals. And that's what we're here

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to do. We're here to enjoy our bodies. We're not

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meant to spend our life at war with our bodies.

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And I think we've just forgotten it. I think we've

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just gone so far down the road and we're kind

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of all looking at each other, going, well.

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does it?

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the path that we were always meant.

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I always say, though to women, and I know that

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you probably have the same message that if you feel

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badly about your body, you know, if you have a

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body image issue, because I think now we're kind of

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getting to the point where we recognize that this is

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this is not right, Like, this is not the ideal

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to be down on ourselves for how we look, but

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we find it really hard to escape it. And I

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always say to women, but don't blame yourself, Like, don't

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go down the path of being self critical of your

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self judgment, do you.

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Because we don't see the like the fish doesn't see

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the water in which it swims. We absorb and we

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internalize these messages. So let's just start with opening up

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our minds. And I'm sure you can talk about this

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to where do those body images image issues come from?

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do they come from?

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And we all know, but let's talk about it.

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were taught when they were growing up is a big

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part of their relationship and their values around their bodies,

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were the conversations that happened in the household.

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I think it's also I think it makes.

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Industries, you know, billions of dollars to have women feel

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poorly about their bodies.

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That's right.

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I mean the diet industry, the beauty industry, cosmetic, the

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weight loss industry.

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I mean billions and billions of dollars.

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It's really profitable to have women hating their bodies. So

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I think, yeah, as I say, it's multifactorial, but I

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think we need to take the blinkers off because these

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are our lives and I'm not sure what the demographic

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of your listeners are. I'm forty one have Smack Bang

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in the demogram. I I feel like I was just

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on the dance floor at the club only last night,

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and then in a blink of an eye, I'm forty.

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One, twenty seven.

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I believe we all our personality kind of we're all

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inside we're a twenty seven year old.

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Is that a thing, doctor, I don't know, but for

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me it is. I still think of myselm as a

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twenty seven year old.

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But look, you know, I think we're waking up and going,

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oh my gosh, life is actually really short.

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How did I get here? And I'm not going to

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do this anymore?

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the choice, and it begins with that awareness of oh,

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I've brought into something that's just not real, and I'm

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now going to do something about it.

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I have was reading your book. Actually we haven't even

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talked about the fact that you did a documentary, but

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we will. I think most people are familiar with the

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Embrace documentary, and you've also written the Embrace Book. And

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what you pointed out there, which I thought was so valid,

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is that we come to what we come to view

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as attractive is what we continually see. And you know,

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we hear people talking about, oh, we're back in the fifties.

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We thought Marilyn Monroe was beautiful, and then in sixty

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some other body type was we thought was beautiful. And

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what we decide is attractive is what we what is

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continually put in front of us. And so if we

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are continually seeing the same narrow kind of criteria, the

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same narrow version of woman, then naturally we come to

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assume that that is the ideal, that's what we all

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need to aspire towards. I think people probably don't even

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realize that.

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I mean, look, I think I mean I covered that

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off in Embrace the doco really quickly. In fact, it

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was a very last minute decision to throw that in

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about two days before we looked the film, So it

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was an ideal for anyone. But I'm really glad we

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got it in there, because beauty through the ages, if

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you stop and think about it, who is coming up

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with the rules that say in nineteen twenty, if you've

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got to straight up and down figure and no.

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Boobs, that is attractive?

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you know, Marilyn Monroe body is what we should all

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aspire to. And then we've got the supermodels in the

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eighties and we've had the sort of the big bum,

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small waist, big boobs, the botox.

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Look who is saying this?

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Like, who is coming up with all these This is

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how you should look in this era? Like don't you

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think it's just crazy? When you stop and pause, it's.

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Like passing fashions, it really is. It's like fashion trends

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that change season to season, but we're living our lives.

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I loathe nothing more than watching I raally watch morning TV.

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But when I see someone pop up and go, this

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season you must have, It's like, what, who are you

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going to tell me what I should have in my wardrobe?

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It just doesn't really make sense.

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But I guess this is the treadmill that I speak about,

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you know, the treadmill of beauty that we buy into

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that we try to be, we don't get there, we

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feel bad about ourselves. This is really vicious cycle. So

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if we just remove ourselves from wanting to look that way,

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aspire to have that body, and just rather settle into

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what we have and make decisions that make us feel

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good regardless of what everybody else might be doing. That

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is where we'll find our true joy.

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I wanted to also talk to you about the fact

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that it can't be ignored. And I think this is

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a part of the problem that we have an obesity epidemic.

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We have too much junk food on our shelves, we

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have too much quick convenience process for all of the

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rest of its stress whatever else is contributing to that.

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And I think that we've been also picked up the message.

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That we're not living a healthy lifestyle and that we

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need to clean up our diets and we need to

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move more. But then, on the other hand, when does

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that become too much?

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You know, takes me back to that.

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Gym question about the clean eating and the training, and

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that's all very inspiring. I think women really struggle to

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find the balance between how do I focus on my

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health and fitness? When am I becoming too obsessed with

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how I look? And when does body positivity you know,

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to be Devil's advocate, become an excuse to not exercise

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or eat well because I should just accept myself exactly

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how I am.

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You know, where do we find the healthy balance?

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Yeah, so I mean, body positivity is not about promoting mediocrity,

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not at all. And I wholeheartedly agree that we have

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too much processed sugar filled foods, junk food, and that

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we need to go back to to fuel our bodies

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with food that's been blessed by the sun in its

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most natural state and form. I mean it's pretty easy, it's.

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Not complicated at all.

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But what we need to remember, and you would know

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this with your background, is that shame and fear and

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guilt never drives positive health outcomes for people. True, so

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the body positive movement will only inspire and educate and

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promote people to living their healthiest life. I mean, I

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know that now in the body that I'm in, I've

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never had more energy than I've got now mentally, physically, spiritually, emotionally,

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I feel really balanced. And I think this is what

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we forget in the whole conversation when we focus far

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too much on the obesity epidemic. We're forgetting about mental health.

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We're forgetting about as equally as important as physical health.

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I received an email from a woman. One of the

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seven thousand emails that I received was from a woman

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who said to me, I live in a fat body.

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I'm overweight.

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I recognize that, but every single day I am just

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trying to keep my head above water. As a child,

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I was sexually abused. No one knows. You're the first

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person I've told. And all I can do each day

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is just survive. We're very complex us human beings, and

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the way that the obesity epidemic is packaged at us

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is not helping. So we need to come at it

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from a space of and it sounds so woo woo,

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but it's true and it works. Is self love and

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self care and self respect and all those lovely things.

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I one hundred percent agree. I just thought it was

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really necessary to have that conversation because I say exactly

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the same thing. We have to start with self compassion.

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Everything has to start from that place, because there's no

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I mean, there's plenty of research to support that fact

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that self criticism, which drives a lot of this dieting

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and you know all of the rest of it, is

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negatively relates to goal achievement. It also is highly correlated

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with anxiety and depression. So letting go of the self

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criticism is hugely important. So Taran I, in my role

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as the psychologist in a online fitness and wellbeing program.

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I hear this question every day, and I'm sure you

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know you come across it all the time in your

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work too, So for our listeners it comes up every day.

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But what do I do? Where do I start with

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changing this?

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Like?

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I hate how I look. I won't get in photographs.

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I haven't swum in the beach with my kids or

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the pool with my kids for X number of years

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because I would never reveal my legs in a pair

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of swimmers. I haven't worn a sleeveless top in five

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years because I hate my arms. And where do I start?

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They think the answer is that I just have to

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change how I look, But it's obviously it's not that.

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It's about changing how they feel about themselves. So what

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are some of the things that you suggest for people?

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Where do they start?

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We at the Body Image Movement, we still receive every

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single week over a thousand emails and messages every single week.

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We are so inundated.

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And yes we are global and we have a large community,

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but I'm still flawed by the amount of the volume

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of people.

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Just going, oh, I hate this, What do I do?

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But I'm also as equally excited by as well, because

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that's where change begins. Is Okay, I'm done, I want

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I want to live a different life. I want to

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have a more positive relationship with my body. So look,

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I think it's about getting informed and reading and educating

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yourself and finding your tribe and turning to social media

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and you know, filling up your feed with positivity as

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just one of the very small one thing that everyone

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can do. Remove people from your news feed that don't

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make you feel good about your body, and fill up

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your news feed with people that inspire you to go

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out and want to do and move your body. But

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it's not about diets and weight loss per se.

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So I think what people need to.

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Know about change is that a fun, dynamic, adventurous, meaningful,

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joyful life. It doesn't just magically happen. This kind of

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life won't fall into your lap.

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Wouldn't it be good of it did? You've got to

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put the.

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Effort in, but Mayami, the return on the effort is

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truly out of this world.

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So make the investment in you.

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And this is actually something that women aren't particularly good at,

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you know, the burnt chop analogy.

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I caught up with Quentin Bryce last year.

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And she was talking about how women, you know, at

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a family gathering will sort of mums will give themselves

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the burnt chop and feed everyone else. It's a great

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it's such a it's such a great analogy, isn't it.

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It's so true.

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But we have to put ourselves first. We have to

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fill up our cup. If we're going to be of

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true service to others and live this life that we want,

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we've got to put in the effort.

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Yes, And it is not selfish. Self care is not selfish.

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I drive that message too, because we still hear it.

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All the time. How do I make the time? I can't.

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I feel this this.

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Anxiety, like this guilt inside me if I want to

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take any time out and look after myself.

478
00:24:33.400 --> 00:24:33.640
Same.

479
00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:37.359
Self love is not selfish, you know, Nor is it vanity.

480
00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:40.480
And it's self love will help you rise up and

481
00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:43.680
stand up, chase the dream. I even say to women,

482
00:24:43.759 --> 00:24:46.960
orgasm more love, more laugh more like you know that

483
00:24:46.960 --> 00:24:49.480
that is what self love is all about.

484
00:24:49.559 --> 00:24:52.880
But it doesn't have to be big and bold.

485
00:24:53.079 --> 00:24:56.440
It could just be And this is something I do

486
00:24:56.559 --> 00:24:59.839
on days where my schedule is hectic, I set it

487
00:24:59.839 --> 00:25:04.200
to time on my phone on the hour every hour

488
00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:07.160
throughout the day. I just take three minutes out, like

489
00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:10.160
three minutes everyone can find three minutes in an hour,

490
00:25:10.680 --> 00:25:13.519
just to breathe, just to center myself, just to find,

491
00:25:13.680 --> 00:25:16.160
you know, my happy place again before heading back into,

492
00:25:16.480 --> 00:25:20.079
you know, whatever's next. We've got to make the time

493
00:25:20.839 --> 00:25:22.200
because we are worth it.

494
00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:25.839
And three minutes can make a huge difference. I teach.

495
00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:28.559
I want to talk about your program in a moment,

496
00:25:28.559 --> 00:25:30.440
but I teach a mindfulness course.

497
00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:31.880
And the backburn of that course.

498
00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:34.079
People think it's all about sitting and meditating for twenty

499
00:25:34.119 --> 00:25:36.759
minutes or forty minutes every day. It's a three minute

500
00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:41.079
breathing space throughout your day, is what really is? You know,

501
00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:42.680
makes an enormous difference.

502
00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:44.160
It's incredible, isn't it.

503
00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:49.559
I've been on off meditator for years, and in the

504
00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:53.119
last few months I've been working really hard just to

505
00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:57.000
stop and take that time. And the difference in my

506
00:25:57.079 --> 00:25:59.599
day when I do versus when I don't, it's incredible.

507
00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:02.720
Taran, you mentioned social media earlier.

508
00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:05.960
We talked about how we are constantly fed this media

509
00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:08.720
diet of what is supposed to be the ideal you know,

510
00:26:09.559 --> 00:26:14.759
beautiful woman, and how that influences our perceptions and our aspirations.

511
00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:19.319
How is social media playing into that? Because of course,

512
00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:22.000
now with social media where we're all we have access

513
00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:27.519
to filters, and even our real life photos are being

514
00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:30.240
enhanced and edited and fixed.

515
00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:34.759
Where do we start with that? Well, have you got a.

516
00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:38.960
It's where do we start with the fact that people

517
00:26:39.559 --> 00:26:44.640
are face tuning and filtering and photoshopping just their selfies,

518
00:26:44.720 --> 00:26:47.440
just their social media feed. Now this was once a

519
00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:52.599
space just for the magazines, but now we're photoshopping out

520
00:26:53.240 --> 00:26:58.079
our own selves in our lives like it's crazy. I

521
00:26:58.119 --> 00:27:01.480
actually get a little bit frustrated with celebrities who talk

522
00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:04.720
about positive body image and yet you'll open up a

523
00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:07.839
magazine and they're there selling an anti wrinkle cream with

524
00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:12.119
their face completely photoshopped. We know how much we look

525
00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:16.119
up to celebrities as a society, and it needs to

526
00:27:16.400 --> 00:27:18.599
it needs to start with them and filter back down

527
00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:23.279
where we start seeing the lines on their faces. And look,

528
00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:27.039
it's a really slippery slope is looking at an image

529
00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:29.200
of yourself and wanting to change it, because when you

530
00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:32.359
go to the mirror five minutes later, you're not that person.

531
00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:34.440
Look.

532
00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:38.200
I think we need to fill up our feed with positive.

533
00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:41.119
Role models, and I know no one better who does

534
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:42.359
it than Celeste Barber.

535
00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:43.440
Yes, I love her.

536
00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:47.319
I just think that is true joy and fun and

537
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:51.720
happiness right there. And look, I think she's done more

538
00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:55.440
for the world than actually what she truly knows. She's

539
00:27:55.519 --> 00:27:58.839
given us a lot of laughs, but she's removing layers

540
00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:02.599
of the stupidity of what we do and what a

541
00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:06.720
lot of women engage in. That's making us miserable. It's

542
00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:10.000
making ourselves miserable. It's making your friends miserable when they

543
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:13.759
see you all photoshopped in face tuned on Instagram and

544
00:28:13.799 --> 00:28:16.000
they want to look like you, but that's not actually

545
00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:18.519
what you look like. It's just it's a big melting

546
00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:20.680
pot of misery. If we keep going down this road,

547
00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:21.680
we've just got to stop.

548
00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:23.799
And it's starting younger and younger.

549
00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:26.559
I was I sometimes get called up, you know, to

550
00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:29.559
do interviews on the news radio, and I got a

551
00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:32.279
call one morning asking could I comment on the fact

552
00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:35.559
that teenage girls were looking to get cosmetic surgery to

553
00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:38.680
look more like their face does in their Snapchat filters.

554
00:28:39.319 --> 00:28:42.079
Teenage girls or young women in their twenties are having

555
00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:43.759
preventative botox.

556
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:45.920
There's not even a met a couple yet.

557
00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:47.680
But I've met I've met a couple of young girls.

558
00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:50.519
In fact, I wrote about it in my first book.

559
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:53.519
I was at a news agency and I was getting

560
00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:55.519
a magazine and there was three young girls who were

561
00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:58.920
standing there talking about preventative botox. Of course, my ears

562
00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:01.720
pricked up, and I'm lurking around them, pretending I'm looking

563
00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:04.240
at whatever horse magazine or guarding magazine, which I don't

564
00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:07.240
even read. And eventually I had to say to them, ladies,

565
00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:08.839
I need to talk to you. I'm sorry, I'm not

566
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:11.359
here actually buying a magazine. I overheard your conversation.

567
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:14.440
What the heck what they were seventeen?

568
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:20.279
It's just crazy to be so disconnected from your incredible

569
00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:21.920
body at such a young age.

570
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:24.400
And look, I've met six year olds on diets.

571
00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:28.200
I've met eight year old girls who just want to

572
00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:33.119
change everything about their bodies. And it's really sad, isn't

573
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:34.839
it that this is what it's come to.

574
00:29:35.160 --> 00:29:38.680
And the word that you use just then disconnected. We

575
00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:42.720
are disconnected from our bodies. That is exactly the issue,

576
00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:44.119
isn't it. Yeah?

577
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:46.000
It is, And I think we need to focus and

578
00:29:46.039 --> 00:29:48.119
if there's one thing that everyone can walk away into

579
00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:51.759
it's just remember to focus more on how you feel

580
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:56.599
as opposed to how you look, because look, I see

581
00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:59.079
people running to tops of mountains these days.

582
00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:01.640
There's a there's a mountain here in Adelaide and Mount.

583
00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:04.119
Lofty, and you get to the top and everyone's looking

584
00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:06.680
at their watches instead of looking at the view like

585
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:08.119
they're looking at their watches.

586
00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:09.839
To work at how many calories they've burnt.

587
00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:13.240
And it's such a it's whenever I see that, and

588
00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:16.440
I see it every time. That is the disconnect right there,

589
00:30:16.759 --> 00:30:19.119
that we can't just sort of enjoy our bodies and

590
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:21.640
move our bodies and look at what we've accomplished at

591
00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:22.440
the top of the mountain.

592
00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:25.440
We've got to look to our fitbit or look to our.

593
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:29.559
Watch, and it's doing us such a great disservice.

594
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.720
Whenever this question comes up in my online communities, if

595
00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:36.440
somebody says i'd hate how I look, how do I

596
00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:37.119
like myself?

597
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:37.400
More?

598
00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:42.039
Invariably somebody mentions your documentary as somebody always says, you

599
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:44.680
have to go and watch the Embrace documentary, and I've

600
00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:47.720
seen it. I actually watched it on a plane. But

601
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:50.920
you have gone one step beyond that right now. You

602
00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:54.000
have created, is it an online program that women can

603
00:30:54.039 --> 00:30:56.640
actually enroll in? And so rather than just watching that

604
00:30:56.680 --> 00:30:59.920
documentary and thinking where do I go next, well, now

605
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:04.200
somewhere that they can go to actually start applying those changes.

606
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:08.880
We were inundated from people after they watched the film.

607
00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:11.319
They thought, yes, I want to embrace and they were

608
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:14.559
really inspired, but they kept emailing us saying, but we

609
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:18.079
don't know how. So we spent two years developing what

610
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:21.960
is now the Embrace You Online Course. It's a four

611
00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:24.440
week online course, but it's really important for us that

612
00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:27.039
people feel it's flexible.

613
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:27.119
You can do it.

614
00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:29.359
We've had people who do it in four months, we

615
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:32.319
have some people who do it in four days, and

616
00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:37.599
it is just that real practical solutions and here is

617
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:41.319
how I went from hating my body to embracing and

618
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:44.960
loving my body. And we've had thousands of women go

619
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:48.680
through the program and we have a crazy ninety eight percent.

620
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:52.640
Success rate, which we are so proud of. And I

621
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:55.400
think I think that's so high.

622
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:58.079
Because when we developed it, it wasn't should we put

623
00:31:58.119 --> 00:31:59.920
this in or should we not do that? It was

624
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:03.000
just let's I just want every woman on the planet

625
00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:06.119
to feel this joy of embracing her body, so there's

626
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:09.920
no holdback. It's like here is everything, but not in

627
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:12.759
an overwhelming way, because you get the.

628
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:13.960
Materials for life.

629
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:18.000
So unlike I think a lot of online programs, I'm

630
00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:20.119
not after anyone's repeat business. I want you to do

631
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:23.680
Embrace and go out there and bloody embrace the anytime.

632
00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:25.079
I want you to come back and knock on our

633
00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:27.319
doors when you're telling us a success stories.

634
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:29.319
So yeah, we are really proud of it.

635
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:33.359
It is changing lives of women everywhere, and yeah, it's fun,

636
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:34.759
and it's connecting women.

637
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:37.359
With their joy and that life that so.

638
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:42.160
Many women want to live, that life of freedom, not

639
00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:45.799
sitting on the sidelines, jumping into the ocean, not worried

640
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:48.000
about going to the change rooms. You know, that's such

641
00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:50.880
a place of misery for women, having sex with the

642
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:55.039
lights on, being connected to your body, just having fun.

643
00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:58.480
You know. One of the regrets of the dying from

644
00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:02.799
Nurse Palliative Nurse Bronnie, where she wrote about the regrets

645
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:05.759
of the dying, was that people lived a life that

646
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:11.279
wasn't theirs, that wasn't their own. And this is what

647
00:33:11.400 --> 00:33:14.119
underpins this course for me, is that we're just here

648
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:16.759
for such a short amount of time, and I just

649
00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:20.920
want women to develop these skills and change their lives

650
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:24.519
and live their lives and have fun.

651
00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:27.319
And get in the photo. That's such a big one,

652
00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:27.680
isn't it?

653
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:29.680
Like you want your kids to look back and have

654
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:34.160
photos of themselves with their mum. And how many moms

655
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:36.240
are just not getting in the photo because oh, but

656
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:37.640
I don't look very good.

657
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:40.720
That Yeah. I was a photographer for ten years and

658
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:43.720
I did family photography. And the amount of times that

659
00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:46.240
the mum would either say that I hate having my

660
00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:49.680
photograph taken or could you just photoshop this part of

661
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:50.200
be away?

662
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:53.000
I just yeah, it doesn't have to be that way.

663
00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:55.440
One other thing I really wanted to talk to you

664
00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:57.920
about I saw this on your social media, is that

665
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:02.039
you're running a marathon and not your first. Am I

666
00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:05.240
around second marathon, and that this one is to raise

667
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:08.480
funds to create and Embrace documentary for kids.

668
00:34:08.840 --> 00:34:09.800
Do you want to talk about that?

669
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:10.719
Yeah?

670
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:14.880
So Embrace the documentary is able to be seen by

671
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:19.360
in schools for the fourteen fifteen year olds. And I've

672
00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:23.079
spent the last couple of years in and out of schools,

673
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:27.920
hundreds of schools working with students they watch the film.

674
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:31.320
But what I've found is that trying.

675
00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:35.400
To reverse years of the body loathing that's really become

676
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:38.760
a foundation of who they are at that age was

677
00:34:38.840 --> 00:34:42.360
really hard to change. So I want to make a

678
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:45.880
film for the eight to twelve year olds so we

679
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:47.760
can sort of really get our foot in the door

680
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:52.159
early before these these issues sort of you know, attach

681
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:55.000
themselves as they're becoming teenagers.

682
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:57.159
So Embrace Kids.

683
00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:00.920
It'll have the same spirit and heart and storytelling as

684
00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:02.199
Embraced the documentary.

685
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:06.440
A little less volver and a little less f bombs

686
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:08.280
in that film more appropriate.

687
00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:11.920
But I just feel really confident knowing that if we

688
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:15.760
can get this really positive body image content into their

689
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:20.559
brains at that young developmental age, as opposed to later

690
00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:23.880
later on when it's just so embedded with who they are,

691
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:27.320
I think we're going to see some really positive health

692
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:31.320
and mental mental health outcomes from getting kids to watch

693
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:31.920
this film.

694
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:35.360
Fantastic. I love that, And you know, we haven't even

695
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:38.320
really talked in detail. We have covered it in some

696
00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:41.400
previous episodes of this podcast, but just how much of

697
00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:44.920
a problem body image is young kids dieting? You mentioned

698
00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:47.719
as well, like really really young, the younger the better

699
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:49.360
we need to be getting these messages out there.

700
00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:50.159
Absolutely.

701
00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:55.159
Yeah, it's terribly heartbreaking. And you know I always say

702
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:58.480
I leave schools with a wet cheek, you know, just

703
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:02.000
from all the tears, from all all the stories. It

704
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:05.280
really is an epidemic of body hating out there for

705
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:07.760
our young kids, and it's their number one issue across

706
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:11.440
Australia is body image is where they're feeling it.

707
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:12.920
So we need to do something about it.

708
00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:17.360
So yes, I'm going to run a marathon and I'm

709
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:21.440
going to ask everyone I know to sponsor me to

710
00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:24.679
raise half a million dollars to make this film, and

711
00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:26.760
then we're going to give it to schools across the

712
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:28.679
world as a free resource.

713
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:31.559
Take it, get it into schools, talk about it.

714
00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:36.360
There'll be parent packs, there'll be teacher study guys like

715
00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:39.920
it's so important. So yes, if I see you in

716
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:42.480
the street, I'll probably ask you for a couple of bucks.

717
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:45.800
Good for you. I a will I'll be donating, No

718
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:46.559
question about that.

719
00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:51.880
Before we sign off, can I just ask you to

720
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:54.760
maybe give people I know you've got your course, but

721
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:57.400
what are three tips? What are three things people can

722
00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:00.599
go away and do today or start doing differently today

723
00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:04.679
to start turning around their relationship with their body.

724
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:09.000
Sure, look, get off the scales is a really easy one.

725
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:13.639
The scales don't determine your health or your value. Jump

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into photographs. You know, when someone says, hey, I want

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to get a photograph to capture this moment in time.

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Don't be the person that says I hate having my

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photograph taken.

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Just jump in.

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And the third thing, I want everyone to relabel their body.

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You know, these legs of mine that have got cellulite

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and stretch marks, and they wobble.

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They've run a marathon and they're running, you know, three

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or four times a week. They're incredible legs.

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These breasts of mind that have fed four thousand meals

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to my you know, three children. Yeah, they don't look

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perky like they used to, but look what they've done.

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My arms, you know, the tuckshop arms. I don't call

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it that, but I know women do you know women

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are so afraid to wear sleeveless dresses in summer because

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of this wobble under their arms. Without these arms, you

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can't love your kids or your loved ones.

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Like, just be grateful.

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Relabel your body, find the gratitude, Find the magic in

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your bodies, and remember that your body is not an ornament.

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It is the vehicle in life and you are not

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meant to spend another day of your life at war

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with your body.

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Enjoy them.

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Thank you so much, Taran, it has been a pleasure.

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I look forward to seeing what you do next and

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I will be supporting you, cheering you on every step

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of the way.

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Thanks so much, lots of love everyone.

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What a dynamo tarant is. She is on a mission

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to change the world. If you would like to get

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involved in the Body Image Movement, I would encourage you

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to check out her four week online program, which you

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can find at Embrace You Online dot com. And if

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you want to see the documentary and you haven't already,

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you can find out where you can see that at

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Bodyimage Movement dot com. We love hearing from you, so

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if you love this show, please give it a rating

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or get in touch with me personally hello at castdone

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dot com. Also, if you're interested in the Crappy to

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Happy book, which I've just released, It's available for order

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and the link is in the show notes, or you

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can come to my website cast done dot com. Thank

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you so much for listening to season three of Crappy

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to Happy. It's been such a pleasure to bring you

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these conversations.

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I really hope that you have enjoyed listening to.

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Them as much as I enjoyed having them. I'm excited

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to continue bringing you even more insights from inspiring people,

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and this show is for you, so please.

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Do let me know what you love and what you

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Leave a review on iTunes, or email me directly at

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hello at castdone dot com. I welcome all of your

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feedback and your input into future episodes.

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Crappy to Happy is presented by cast Gun, produced by

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Davis Lenski, Audio production by Darcy Thompson.

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