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A listener production.
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Hey there, this is Crappy to Happy with Tiffany Hall
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and Cas Done. Thanks for joining us. We're so excited
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you founders. Here in this series, we're going to look
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into ways that you might be feeling a little bit
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crappy and give you the tools and tips that you
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need to feel happy and awesome. Now. I'm Tiffany Hall.
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I am the founder of weight loss and wellness program
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TIFO dot com. I'm an expert trainer. I was a
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trainer on the TV show The Biggest Loser, and I'm
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a six damn black belt in taekwondo. But joining me
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throughout this series is my better half, Cas Done. So Cass,
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tell us a little bit about yourself. Hi.
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Yeah, I'm Castune.
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I'm a clinical and coaching psychologist, and I'm a mindful
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less meditation teacher, and I am the resident psychologist on
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tifxo dot com, which is how you and I have
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come to know each other and work together. So we
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work together with our community to help people to live happier,
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healthier lives. And I think in this series what we
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want to do is we want to really nail all
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of those things that cause people to feel crappy, and
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there are many of them, as we both know. So,
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you know, people feel unhappy with their body, they feel stressed,
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overwhelmed and busy, they're perfectionists, self critical, not getting enough sleep,
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you know, a million reasons.
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Why people feel crappy.
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And so what we hope to do is to give
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you the tools and the techniques and really practical things
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that you can go out and apply straight away, practical
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and change your life and go from feeling crappy to
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feeling a whole lot more happy.
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And it doesn't have to be a life overhaul, does it.
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Absolutely not.
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Little simple strategies and useful things that people can go
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out and do straight away.
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Straight away. And we're going to start with talking about
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this cult of busyness and overwhelmed and stress.
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Great topic, So, Cas, why we so busy? Great question.
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Look, I think that generally speaking, we all, you know,
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we really are doing a lot. We're working and juggling
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family priorities and you know, kids and all sorts of
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other things, trying to stay fit, trying to eat well,
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and we have a lot to do. But I think also,
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I mean, I suspect also that business is not so
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much as a physical thing, but it's a mental thing,
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Like we have this kind of mind state of being
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permanently busy, constantly thinking about the next thing we need
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to do, and we have this culture of multitasking, trying
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to fit so much into a small amount of time
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and feeling constantly stretched.
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You know, would you agree?
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I agree, and I agree. It's become a little bit competitive,
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busier than you. I am so.
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Busy, busy you think you're busy.
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Yeah, it's annoying on Facebook, you know, everybody, I'm so busy.
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We're over sharing. It's pressure.
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So we start, how do we start think that that
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is a real thing. And look, I think also we
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need to kind of straight up front. We need to
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make the point that there is no such thing as multitasking.
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Everybody thinks, they say, everybody know, they're devastating. There is
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no such thing as multitasking. All we are doing is
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switching tasks, constantly switching from one thing to the other.
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And it makes us feel good because we feel like
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we're getting a lot done and we get that kind
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of little dopamine hit in our brain that says I
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can tick things off my list. And actually, at the
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end of the day, if you look back, you're not
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getting that much done. And also, every single time you
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switch from one task to another, it takes something like
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twenty five percent more time to refocus on the first task.
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And studies have shown that you lose forty percent productivity
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really by multitasking, absolutely absolutely, and this has been proven.
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This is this is kind of a big topic for me.
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I like this topic. This has been proven with like
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getting people to do one task solidly for say thirty minutes,
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and then giving them a break and then getting them
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to switch to something else. And if you think about it,
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how often do we actually spend thirty minutes on a task?
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So this drop in productivity is even when you've got
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a big.
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Stretch of time, so we should be chunking.
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But most of the time what we're doing is we're
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working on a document, but we're checking Facebook, and then
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we're getting a text message on our phone.
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Then I've got an email, and.
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So this multi this task switching, sorry, is not just
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like I'm working on this for half an hour and
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that for half an hour. It's like thirty seconds, five
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minutes at a time we're switching.
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So we're actually we're.
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Just losing so much productivity and creating this constant mental
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stress and cognitive overload which is actually proven to be
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really bad for us, really really bad for our health
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and wellbeing. So I think we need to really rethink
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that that.
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Whole idea.
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Yes, because it's very popular and fashionable to be a multitasker.
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I'm pregnant at the moment, I'm eight months, but I'm
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running a business and I can do it all. And
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you know, it's very hard, and people sort of wear
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it as a badge of honor, absolutely, especially women.
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Absolutely, we wear it as a badge of honor. And
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do you know what, I also sometimes think as well
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as just this whole culture of fitting more in and
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having a busy life means having a full life or
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an important life. Sometimes this is the clinical psychologist to me,
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I think that people kind of stay busy to run
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away from the things they don't want to face in
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their life.
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You really do.
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Yeah. Do you know a lot of people come to
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me and through my weight loss and wellness program tiffects
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soo dot com, they say I need to lose weight,
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but I'm too busy, And I just say, well, you're
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not too busy. There's no such thing as too busy,
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you just haven't got your priorities right.
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Such a great point.
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It is like what are we putting our energy on
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and are they really the important things?
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Are we taking off a to do list?
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Or are we actually really looking at what are the
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important things and where should we best be spending our
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time and energy and then focusing our attention on those
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things that make life more meaningful and purposeful and joyful
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as opposed to just frenetically.
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Absolutely busy, perpetually busy.
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I think the healthier you are, the healthier your business
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will be, the healthier family will be, the healthier your
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community will be. So you do have to put some
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emphasis in that. And I will come back to talking
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about how to conserve your energy when you're incredibly busy.
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But first up, I really want you to tell us, Cass,
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where do I start. I'm sitting at home and listening
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to us chat away and I'm thinking, yeah, okay, but
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I am feeling really overwhelmed. I'm in a brown paper
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bag and I can't see the way out, Cass, where
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do I start?
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Can I just make the point that probably you're sitting
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and listening to this, you're not actually sitting and listening
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to us. Right now, you're probably cooking dinner, going for
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a walk, like checking your Facebook.
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Yeah, because that's multitasking, wealthy, put it down and just
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listen to us, please.
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So there is point number one, I guess is to
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try to practice this novel idea of single tasking, just
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doing one thing at a time. It is really when
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you try to do it, it is really painfully uncomfortable
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because we are so not used to doing it. And
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that's a big part a you know, it's it's caused
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by this technology society that we live in. We are
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constantly distracted by pins and emails and you know, our
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phones in our pockets constantly. So so we need to
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address that, that cole concept of unplugging and taking some
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break from the screens and the distractions. And I'm really
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deliberately setting those boundaries. We need to also look at
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this idea of just focusing time on one.
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Task and.
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Giving it a good, you know, a good chunk of
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our attention. I mean I could go I could I
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could go on and on of it, I could continuing
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list off.
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Yeah, And I think your point is really important in
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you know, choosing your priorities and creating downtime.
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Deliberately slowing down. It's not a sexy idea, but it's
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a really important idea. Deliberately slowing down and making space
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even just to do nothing, just to you know, you
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think about when you if you just think about a
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normal day, you go to a coffee shop and you're
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meeting a friend, and you've got five minutes.
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Before your friend arrives, Phone comes out, phone comes out.
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Struggle.
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We cannot, we cannot just sit and deliberately do nothing.
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I ask people in my work and in my psychology practice.
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I am a very very strong advocate obviously for mindfulness,
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meditation or just being more mindful in life generally, and
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I ask people if they can sit down and practice
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some meditation for five or ten minutes a day. And
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the amount of people who come back and tell me
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that they found it absolutely extraordinarily difficult to just sit
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and breathe and not do anything, and to tolerate that
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discomfort of not doing something for ten minutes out of
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a day, come cass, What have we become?
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So there's a shift that needs to happen.
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I think it's so important that we recovery.
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We need to embrace this we need to embrace this
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slow the slowing down, and that's a good start. That's
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a good start, just sitting and creating space.
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Why do you think people find it so difficult to meditate?
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I think because of this almost like adult add that
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we've all developed, which is directly as a result of
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our addiction to our smartphones, the fact that we we
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have become accustomed to our brains been constantly needing some stimulation.
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So even when we're sitting still, even when our body
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is actually still, our mind rarely is like our minds
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are constantly wanting to go to thinking, worrying, planning, you know, wondering.
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And so when you ask people to just sit and
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be with their thoughts or their feelings, that's what they
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notice is that their mind never stops. And if you
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ask people to sit and be with their thoughts and
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just not react to them or give in to them,
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not believe every story that they tell themselves, it's just
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like there's this constant urge to get up and move
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or do It's just we have sort of just lost
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this capacity as a society really to just sit and.
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Be still and to just let our minds just go quiet.
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Cas Is there any negative impact on our brains in
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that we are so frenetic. Yes, yes, like actual brain
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development actual.
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Yes, yeah, funny you should ask.
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So this whole idea of being constantly busy, and particularly
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I go back to this multitasking, which is what we're
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really talking about, this constant kind of moving and switching attention.
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So what we know is that it actually has a
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negative impact on the part of your brain, actually changes
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the structuring and function of your brain in the parts
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to do with empathy, cognitive control, and emotional control. I
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read one study that showed that multitaskers performing a cognitive
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task showed a drop in IQ equivalent to people who
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had been pot smoking the night before.
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I'm not joking.
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And we you know, we just tend to cut corners,
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make mistakes, issues, impact on our decision making, memory, learning,
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and we just are losing the attention, sorry, losing the
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capacity to sustain attention. There's a there's a term called
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continuous partial attention, and that's how we live. We don't
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ever really sustain attention anymore.
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So.
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Things that require sustained attention.
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Like reading or you know, writing a book, or you know,
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just getting a job done, working on a project.
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These things require sustained attention.
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And we we honestly, we've all got this kind of
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adult add where we can't do it anymore. I even
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I do meditate every day, and I notice it myself.
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And that's the impact of the smartphone culture. Ah, and
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the impact of this whole busy, busy, busy culture.