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This is Crappita Happy and I am your host, Cas Dounn.
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I'm a clinical and coaching psychologist. I'm mindfulness meditation teacher
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and of course author of the Crappia Happy books. In
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this show, I bring you conversations with interesting, inspiring, intelligent
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people who are experts in their field and who have
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something of value to share that will help you feel
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less crappy and more happy. Hello and welcome to another
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solo episode of Crappya Happy. Thank you so much for
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being here. It's coming to the end of January and
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what I have tried to share this past month are
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some ideas about how you can set yourself up for
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success in twenty twenty four in terms of how to
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set really good goals and the kinds of things you
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should be thinking about when you think about how you
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want to live perhaps better this year than you have
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in the past. I've also shared with you some really
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great guests that've had some value to share in terms
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of habits you should focus on how you can spend
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your money in order to increase your fulfillment in life.
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That was a great episode and some of the psychology
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around making habits stick once you know what it is
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that you need to do, then how do you make sure.
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That you actually do it?
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And I wanted to follow on from that now because
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we're coming to the end of January and it's around
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the time for some people. Maybe you started to make
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some changes or you were thinking about goals and the
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wheels have already come.
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Off, because that's what happens.
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Maybe it's that you're only now with routines starting to
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come back in kids going back to school, perhaps going
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back to work after some holidays, that you're now starting
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to really think about what you want to put in place.
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What I wanted to share.
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Today is basically how change works. The process of change.
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Just one particular model of change that I learned all
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the way way way back when I was first training
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to be a coaching psychologist in the early two thousands, Yes,
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way back then, and I have shared it with clients
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many times over the years, and it's really helpful to
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be able to conceptualize the stages that people typically go
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through when they are trying to make a change, change
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a habit, or work towards a goal. You know, needing
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to do something different from what you would normally be doing.
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So let's talk about that, and hopefully by the end
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of this you can identify where you are on the
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change model, on the change wheel, and you might have
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some ideas about how you can continue to move forward
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and what to expect us you go through this process,
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because everybody goes through the same process, and so normalizing
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that and understanding that, I think can be super, super helpful.
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So the model that I want to share is called
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the trends theoretical model of change, and it was developed
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by two people by the names of Preshsca and Di
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Clemente back in the nineteen seventies, and they originally were
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looking at smokers and how people who had quit smoking
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there was a lot of smoking back in the seventies.
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How people had successfully.
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Quit smoking without any outside help, and what differentiated those
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people in the stages that they went through in basically
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extinguishing that behavior and breaking that habit. Since then, over
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the years, this same model has been applied to lots
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of different populations going through lots of different changes. It
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is often used when we're talking about breaking addictions, but
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any sort of change behavior, change that you want to make,
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it applies. So let's jump straight into what are the
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stages and what can you expect at each of those
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stages of change. So first of all, I want you
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to visualize this model as a circle. It's a wheel, okay.
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So you know when we think about change, just how
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we think about it in our head.
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If we think about the.
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Change process, we maybe consider that there's a start point
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and then we kick off and start along our merry
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way making our change, and then somewhere at the other
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end of this straight line, we come at the other
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end and we're a changed person. We've got a new habit,
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we're doing something new, we've achieved our goal. Obviously, that
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is not typically how it works for most people.
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Maybe you've seen things.
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Online, you know, squiggles and drawings about how the change
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process actually works, and it's actually more stop, start, up, down,
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forward back, which is really much more realistic. But they
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always still seem to have a beginning point, you know,
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on this end of the screen, and an end point
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over on the other side. So to start off with,
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we are turning all of that upside down and we
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are visualizing this thing as a circle. Right from the
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get go. This is a process that you can imagine
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you might go around and around and around as many
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people of them do before they actually get off the
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circle and exit because they have made the change that
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they want to make. So the first stage, which is
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kind of not even a stage, it's a pre stage.
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It is called pre contemplation, so pre meaning before and
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contemplation meaning thinking about something. When you're in pre contemplation,
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as you can imagine, that means that you are not
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even thinking about making a change.
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So it's not even on the radar.
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Maybe there are other people who think you should make
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a change. Maybe people are suggesting that you might want
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to do something different. Maybe a doctor or a partner
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or a friend is suggesting that maybe you need to
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cut out some particular behavior that they don't think is
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very good for you.
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But as far as you're.
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Concerned, not an issue. It could be that you just
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don't want to make the change. It could be that
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there is a level of denial that you don't want
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to look at this. But regardless, you're not really thinking
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that this is something that you are interested in or
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willing to do. You're not on the circle yet. The
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minute that you step onto the circle and you think, hmm,
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maybe actually I do need to do something different. Maybe
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I do need to break this habit, or maybe there
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is a goal that I want to achieve. I want
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to lose some weight, I want to do some things
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different with my finance has become a better saver. I
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want to be better, more present in my relationship. I
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need to spend less time on screens. I need to
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watch less TV. I need to I don't know what
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it is, whatever it is that you want to make
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a change. As soon as you start to think, hmm,
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maybe I should maybe I should cut back a bit,
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maybe I should do something different, then you have entered contemplation.
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So you've gone from pre contemplation. Now you're in contemplation.
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So contemplation is characterized by a lot of this will
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I or won't tie. This is the weighing up the options,
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weighing up the pros, and is it really going to
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be worth it to make all of this effort and
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to achieve this thing that I want to achieve When I'm.
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Actually pretty comfortable? How I am? You know?
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This change is difficult. Change is challenging doing things differently,
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stopping doing things that I'm enjoying doing starting doing things
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that I'm probably not going to enjoy. This is all
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on the table during contemplation, do I really want this? So?
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The thing to remember about contemplation is that it is
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characterized by a lot of ambivalence. Ambivalence is will I
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won't I. If you can imagine that you are standing
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on a seesaw, remember as a kid, sometimes you would
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stand on a sea saw with one foot on either side,
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and you're kind of balancing that seesaw upright, So keeping
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it from going in too far in one direction or
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the other. That's ambivalence, That just keeping things as they are.
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I don't know which side I'm going to land on this.
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When you're in ambivalence, you haven't yet moved to a
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decision point. I want to give you the suggestion if
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you're a person, if you're a coach, well, if you're
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a coach, you probably know this already. But if you're
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a coach or a therapist, the important thing to understand
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about the contemplation stage is not to try to force
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somebody into a decision. When somebody is very invested in
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just weighing up the options and they're in ambivalence, putting
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too much pressure. If you force them down one side
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on that seesaw, then what they're most likely to do
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is bounce straight back because they're invested in keeping these
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scales balanced.
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They're still in that will I or won't I.
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That also goes for if you're a partner or a
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friend or a family member of somebody who is contemplating change.
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Too much pressure, too much forcing somebody into a decision
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when they're still in that contemplation stage can really backfire.
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It's really important to be engaging somebody or engaging yourself,
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even if this is you in really deeply considering the
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pros and cons. In therapy and in coaching, there are
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certain ways that we can ask questions that will draw
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out really the deep the benefits, what some of the
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motivations might be for changing, what some of the consequences
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or challenges might be if they don't make that change.
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We can help to guide people towards making a decision
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for themselves that they then feel invested in. They feel
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like they own that they haven't been forced or pressured
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into making that decision and making that change, because that
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is not a good start. If somebody feels like they're
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only doing something because somebody else is forcedamor wants them
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to do that. So that's an important thing to understand.
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So assuming that, then from the contemplation stage, somebody decides, Yep, nope,
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this is it. I'm going to do this. This is
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important to me. It's because of I've got something that
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really matters to me. There's a change that I want
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to make or a goal that I want to achieve
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because it's aligned with my values. Remember, all of this
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is really important in making change stick, making it last.
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Then what happens is we move into preparation, sometimes called determination.
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So it's preparation, it's the preparation stage is determining that
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I'm going to do something different, And in this stage
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we are gathering resources. This is like, Okay, what information
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do I need? What are the tools that I need?
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What are the resources that I need? How do I
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set myself up here before I've launched into any kind
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of action, before I've actually started to make the change,
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how do I start preparing myself. This is preparing me mentally,
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preparing me emotionally, it's preparing my environment. So if you
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skip on this stage, it can really have disastrous effects
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if you try to jump too quickly into making a
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change and you haven't really done this preparation stage. Properly,
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it can lead to it can lead to failure. So
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really encourage you. If you're in this preparation stage, you've
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decided you want to make a change, take your time
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with this. Really think about what is it that I'm
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going to need to support me as I start to
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do something different in my life. Let's say that you
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want to really do something different with your finances. It
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might be engaging an accountant, talking to a financial advisor,
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going and getting a book, listening to some podcasts, finding
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out best strategies for investment. How do I pay down debt?
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Where do I get the cheapest, best credit card so
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that I can transfer my debt with zero percent?
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Whatever it is.
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If you want to lose weight, what am I going
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to do? What's the program I'm going to follow? What's
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going to be my strategy my approach to this. So
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really thinking about gathering up your resources. Then it's setting
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up your environment. Setting up your environment is key to success,
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and that includes the people in your environment too. Who
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am I going to tell about what it is that
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I want to achieve? How do I enlist other peoples
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for support and for accountability? So that's preparation. Once you
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have completed the preparation stage, then you move into the
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next stage. So we're going around the now. So we've
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jumped onto the circle in contemplation, we've come around the
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circle into preparation, and then we move into action. So
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when we're in action, that is when we are actively
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making a change. We are doing the thing we said
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we were going to do. We've started the process.
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The important thing about the action stage is that it's
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again this is the bit where it is not linear
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and having any expectation that once you go into action,
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that's it. I'm just going to go from A to
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Z and out the other side and I've achieved my goal.
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Highly unrealistic, highly unlikely, because there's a lot of stuff
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that can come up. A lot of stuff starts to
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come up once you're in the action stage.
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In the action stage, it's really.
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Important to recognize that this is an experiment. What you're
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doing is you're trying on a new behavior. You're reviewing
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what works, what doesn't work, what went well, giving yourself
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the opportunity to take feed back and learnings. So if