Dec. 5, 2024

How to stop being a people pleaser

How to stop being a people pleaser
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How to stop being a people pleaser

In this episode, Cass discusses the challenges of people pleasing, especially during the holiday season. She explores the roots of this behaviour, including childhood experiences, personality traits, and societal expectations. Cass emphasises the importance of self-care, setting boundaries, and recognising when helping others compromises your own well-being. She encourages listeners to prioritise their needs and to be honest in their relationships, asserting that saying no is not selfish but rather a necessary step towards authenticity and emotional health.Connect with Cass:www.crappytohappypod.comhello@crappytohappypod.com www.instagram.com/crappytohappypodwww.tiktok.com/crappytohappypod
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Transcript
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This is Crappita Happy, and I am your host, Cas Done.

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I'm a clinical and coaching psychologist. I'm mindfulness meditation teacher

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and of course, author of the Crappita Happy books. In

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this show, I bring you conversations with interesting, inspiring, intelligent

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people who are experts in their field and who have

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something of value to share that will help you feel

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less crappy and more happy. Welcome to another solo episode

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of Crappita Happy. It feels like ages since I have

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done one of these, and that's because it has been

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ages since I've done one of these. I had a

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few weeks off unplanned. I was just kind of focused

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on what I am planning for next year for the podcast.

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I thought you wouldn't miss me too much. I'm very

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happy to be back and have brought you some really

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interesting interviews. I've got some great ones coming up, but

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I wanted to talk to you now because we're at

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that time of year. We're coming into Christmas. It can

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be a lovely time, it can also be an incredibly

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stressful time, and I just wanted to make sure that

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I am back in your ears reminding you of the

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things that are important to do. With boundaries and self

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care and rest. So this week I wanted to talk

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to you about people pleasing how don't know if it's

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a problem, what you can do about it, and you

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know how you can just.

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Keep it in check.

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And I think particularly at this time of year, when

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there's a lot of demands on your time, there's a

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lot of requests for time, effort, resources, energy contributing to

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various things, attending things, And if you are a person

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who has a tendency to say yes when you'd really

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like to say no, or even if you're a person

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who says yes because you just love to say yes

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and you love to help, and you love to do

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all the things and be a part of things, and

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you're more happy to help and it makes you happy

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to make other people happy. If you're one of those types,

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I just want to remind you that sometimes it can

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be really useful to make sure that you are looking

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after yourself at the same time and just constantly checking

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in with yourself to make sure that you are not

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crossing your own line and potentially doing for others at

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the detriment of yourself.

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So I'm going to keep this short and sweet.

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I just want to remind you people pleasing is the

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tendency to prioritize other people's needs, their desires, you know,

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their preferences, what they would like from you, at the

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expense of your own wellbeing.

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Now you may say, well.

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You know, it's not at the expense of my well being.

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I'm doing things for others because I really enjoy it.

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And if that's the case, then happy for you.

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Like go you.

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There are definitely people like that in the world who

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just really love to help and who are more than

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willing to contribute. The world needs people like that. It

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can get really tricky, though, when you may be so

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accustomed to doing for others, accommodating others, being a team player, contributing,

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doing your share, helping out people, seeing where people need help,

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responding to calls for help. You've kind of even lost

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touch with maybe what you need and what you would

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prefer to do, so that could be potentially another conversation.

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But it can be agreeing to do extra work even

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if your plate is full. It can be always being

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the person to park your own needs or put things

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aside to help.

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Out somebody else. And while that is really a nice.

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Quality to have, it can also be driven by a

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fear of criticism or rejection, a fear of conflict, not

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wanting to upset somebody or hurt somebody's feelings, So saying

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yes even when you would rather say no because you're

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afraid of the fallout and just a fear of being

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rejected or being disliked or just upsetting somebody generally. So

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let's have a talk about if that is the case

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for you, like where that might come from. To be honest,

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it probably doesn't even really matter, but we all have

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this instinctive kind of desire to want to know, well,

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what made me like this? Why am I like this?

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Why can't I change this? Why can't I fix this?

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I think it's much more important to focus on is

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this serving me? Do I need to make a change here?

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You know?

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What might I do differently and what might be some

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tools and strategies that I might be able to adopt

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to prevent me from continually going down this path? However,

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we you know, some people really like to have some

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insight into where it comes from and where it stems from,

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because that can help you to recognize it and to

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understand in the moment what's actually going on, so that

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you can feel more in control of your own choices

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and make more empowered choices about how you spend your

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time and effort and energy and money and all of

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your resources. So oftentimes people pleasing grows out of as

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you can imagine, growing up in a family environment where

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your approval was conditional on well, just conditional full stop,

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where you had to make sure that whatever you were

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doing was keeping other people happy. You are having to

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modify your behavior, be acquiescent, be pleasant, just be good,

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you know, be good, be helpful, be polite, do the

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right thing. You know, these kinds of messages growing up,

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and if you were really not really given that freedom

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to express your opinion, to exert your own needs, there

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was this expectation that that is what is required of

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you in order to keep the peace and keep the

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family happy and make sure that Mum and dad or

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cares or whoever, that they would give you that positive

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feedback that as a child you so desperately want and need. Then,

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as you can imagine that that leads to later on

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just having this be your automatic pattern, your default to

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go to, always wanting to just make sure that you're

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looking after other people and making sure everybody else is happy.

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So you know, if in your family you were always

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approved of because you were being helpful, you were chipping in,

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you were pulling your weight, you were the one that was,

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you know, keeping things clean and picking up after people

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even when others weren't, and that's what got you validation,

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and that's what you were positively reinforced for when that

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can really embed that kind of pattern of behavior in

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other situations. It could be that there was violence, there

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was tension, there was conflict in the family, and so

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it was very much a survival strategy to just be pleasant,

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be quiet, be agreeable. You know, only you know what

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sort of dynamics were going on in your own family home.

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And it's not just in your family home. It's at school,

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it's and in your peer groups. It's as you grow up,

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and these messages continue to be reinforced. It's interesting that

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Spotify rapped just came out and which was just so

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gratifying to see the numbers Spotify listeners. If you are

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a Spotify listener high, but the vast majority of crappy

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to happy listeners listen, according to our stats, listen over

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on Apple, so Spotify counts for less than twenty percent,

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like more like fifteen percent of total listeners. So to

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see the podcast being in the top five podcasts for

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two thousand listeners on Spotify when Spotify counts for such

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a small percentage overall, it's just so heartwarming and just

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really reinforced my passion for the show and my desire

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to continue to make content and create the podcast and

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in a way that continues to be really helpful and relevant.

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I'm getting off topic.

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I just wanted to say that, but what I'm gonna

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say was on Spotify Wrapped, the number one most downloaded

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episode was the episode that I did on Schemers and

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Schemer Therapy, which is kind of interesting. So I'll put

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that in the show notes if you want to go

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back and listen if you missed it. But according to

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the stats, a lot of people listen to that episode.

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But you may recall that one of the schemers that

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you know, one of the many schemers that can be

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really unhelpful, is a self sacrifice schemer, and there's a

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subjugation schemer as well. So these are like when you

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grow up with the worldview and this, you adopt this

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pattern of thinking and behavior that is all about suppressing

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your own needs for the sake of others, sacrificing your

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own needs, subjugating your own desires and preferences for the

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sake of others in the service of keeping other people happy.

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So you may well have that kind of schema running.

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Many people do, and that's playing out as this kind

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of people pleasing behavior. There are certain personality traits that

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are linked to people pleasing. If you are familiar with

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the Big five, the Big five personality traits if you

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remember the what is the word not anagram, the acronym

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If you remember the acronym ocean, oce an, openness to experience, conscientiousness, extraversion, agreeableness,

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and neuroticism. So they are the Big five. Everybody has

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a combination of those Big five personality traits. They're kind

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of the core human personality traits. If you are high

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in agreeableness, if that is just part of your natural personality,

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which again is lovely, cooperative, helpful, get along with people

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you know, friendly, can also rate highly for people pleasing.

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So it's like it's almost like a strength that is

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being overplayed. That tendency to foster positive relationships can be

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overplayed to the point of actually sacrificing your own needs.

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So again that's not a bad thing. Agreeableness is a

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great quality to have, but it is about how it's

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being expressed and to what kind of level. If you're

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a person who's just naturally empathetic, if you naturally kind

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of feel what other people feel, and you have that

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natural inclination to want to help when you see suffering,

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what you see somebody having a hard time, well, then

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that can also predispose you to this kind of people

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pleasing behavior. Again, admirable, like really lovely to want to help,

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And it's not about the wanting to help, and then

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everybody should just like stop doing that. It is about

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knowing where the line is and when this behavior starts

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to undermine your own needs and preferences, when it is

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starting to come at a cost to you. People who

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have an anxious attachment style. Again, attachment styles is one

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of the most popular episodes that I've done in the past.

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You may recall that people with an anxious attachment style,

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who if you've grown up in family environment where you

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never quite knew if that love and approval was going

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to be there or if it wasn't going to be so,

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if somebody is just emotionally avoidant. If a caregiver is

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emotionally avoidant and unavailable, well that will lead to you

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being most likely having a kind of an avoidant attachment style,

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which means you sort of shut off your own emotional

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needs and your own attachment needs because you've learned that

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your needs aren't going to be met. So it's not

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that you don't have attachment needs, it's just that you

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shut them down for your own survival, your own sort

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of emotional and psychological survival, and you become very self

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reliant and very independent. Now another version, another variation of

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insecure attachment is this anxious attachment style, and this is

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where caregivers are either inconsistently available. It's like then you

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never quite know what you're going to get, or they

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can sometimes come with very intrusive parenting, whether kind of

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in your business all the time, almost maybe even looking

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for you to satisfy their needs, you know, looking for

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you to keep them emotionally regulated. So that can also

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lead to an anxious attachment style, which manifests often as

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this like really hyper alertness to cues of rejection or criticism,

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like really being hyper alert to any sign that somebody

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may be not happy with you, and whether it's in

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an email or a text or just a facial expression,

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the anxious attachment style is kind of this constant reassurance seeking,

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this looking for somebody to reassure you all the time

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that they do care for you and that they are

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there for you, and that they do like you, and

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they want to be your friend or they want to

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be in a relationship with you and of course they

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love you and no, they're not having an affair, and

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you know, because it can lead to this kind of

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jealousy and clingliness. And I guess the other thing with

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the anxious attachment style is that it is it's really

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hard for that reassurance to land. So no matter how

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many times somebody tells you, no, it's fine, of course

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I love you, I want to be with you, of

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course i'm your friend, it's like, oh, that makes you

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feel better temporarily, but then that anxiety comes up again.

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It's like really hard to hold. So it's is constant

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proximity seeking reassurance seeking, which you know, ironically can sometimes

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then drive people away and become like a self fulfilling

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prophecy almost. But you can imagine it makes sense that

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that kind of anxious attachment style may well lead to

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people pleasing kinds of behaviors, like always wanting to make

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sure that you're looking after the other person and doing

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everything for them and making sure that they're okay in

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order to shore up their affection for you, in order

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to make sure that they're going to not leave you,

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that they want to stay with you, making yourself really

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indispensable to that person, And that can play out in

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the workplace as well. That's not just in personal relationships,

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that can play out in lots of different domains, in

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platonic friendships as well. So attachment styles it's really helpful

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to understand those because they do show up not just

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in romantic relationships but across the board. And then obviously

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there's just the gender expectation, like women are expected to

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be nurturing, mothers are expected to make the sacrifices do

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everything for their kids. There's certain occupations therapy, health care, teaching,

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maybe even like those kinds of caregiving nurturing professions where

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you're almost expected to martyr yourself, to go over and

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above to look after other people's needs. But the female

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thing and the mother thing, I think those are really strong,

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and no matter how far we've come in terms of

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feminism and gender equity, a lot of still carry that

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that expectation that as a woman, your job is basically

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to look after people.

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I mean, have a look next time you.

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Go to a barbecue and see who's doing all the work,

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and who's in the kitchen, and who's standing around with

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the beer, standing around the standing around the barbecue. You know,

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who's cleaning up the house before the people come to visit.

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Who's the one carrying the majority of parenting and the

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domestic labor and all of that. It's this, you know,

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doing for everybody, almost instinctively, almost without question. So that's

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kind of a summary of all of the kinds of

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conditions that may lead to this people pleasing kind of behavior.

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I've been reflecting on a few of my coaching clients recently.

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It's interesting that recently I had a string like over

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the course of a week, several of my clients all

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showed up angry, like just expressing this anger that they

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has been repressed for a long time, And it got

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me to thinking, maybe I should be doing a podcast

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episode on that it's okay to express healthy anger because

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in every case there would be this anger, but it

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was always kind of moderated or or there was a

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disclaimer around it, or there was oh, I know, I

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should have compassion for that person, like I can understand

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why they did that. It was anger about abusive ex partners,

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previous partners, current partners, abusive parents, parents failing to protect,

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like all different sort of circumstances and scenarios. But it

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was just like this anger was coming to the surface,

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and I was thinking, maybe I should be doing an

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episode on anger, like it's okay to be angry. But

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as I started to think about it more, I thought,

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you know what, this is actually not just about the

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anger that's presenting now. This is about why women are

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anger now. And it's like this build up. It's this

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people pleasing, suppressing, sacrificing, subjugating for a long time, tolerating,

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keeping the peace, taking the high road, being the bigger person,

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pulling the weight for everybody, and then finally going I

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have had it, like enough is enough. And that is

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what happens with people pleasing. It is all fine on

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the surface, it's all good, and I'm doing all the things.

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I'm looking after everybody and everybody's happy and it's okay,

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I can take it, I can manage it, and then

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it's just bubbling up to the surface as this like rage,

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which is why I thought, Okay, well, let's talk about

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people pleasing. Maybe if we talk about people pleasing and

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we get a handle on that and we stop people

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from doing that, then maybe then we won't have so

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much of this like rage coming out in people. Hence

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the topic of the conversation, especially since we are going

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into Christmas and I know it is a time when

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people often feel pressure to do things they don't want

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to do, go to events they don't want to go to,

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and all the things. You know what I'm talking about.

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You know what I'm talking about. So how do you

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know if it is a problem or if you're just

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one of those people who is so happy to help,

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like you get joy from bringing joy to other people.

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If you're one of those people, you know it's a problem.

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If you are feeling drained, depleted, you're starting to maybe

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feel resentful, even if you're not expressing that to anybody,

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even if just quietly in your own mind, you're starting

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to feel a little annoyed with people, and maybe it's

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low level. Maybe it's like right at the surface and

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you've really had it if you are struggling to say no,

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even when you know it's compromising your own happiness or

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your own wellbeing, your own peace, your own opportunity to

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rest relaxed, do what you want to do. If you're

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a person who says no, I'm more than happy to

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help out like that, I love helping out, like that's

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my thing, not an issue for me, great. But if

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it is an issue for you, if actually somebody needs

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help or want something from you, and it is going

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to get in the way of something that you would

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rather do, or you really genuinely don't want to do that,

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or you don't have the space, or it would really

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stretch you to do that. Can you comfortably say no?

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Can you comfortably say I would love to help, but

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I'm really sorry, I'm at capacity, because if you can't,

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if that feels really uncomfortable, then maybe it actually is

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a problem. It's about being able to know and to

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say no, like to know when you can't you don't

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want to, and to be comfortable to express that and

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not then be racked with guilt.

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That's the other thing.

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Too right to be able to say no without guilt.

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At work, it could be that you are taking on

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so many of these extra roles and responsibilities and jumping

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in committees or helping out of the last minute because

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there's some urgent deadline that it's actually compromising your ability

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to do what is important to you, like the tasks

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that are your priority, because you're being pulled in so

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many other different directions, helping out other people, being a

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team player and being cooperative and being supportive, and it's

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actually getting in the way of you doing the job

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being paid to do. You might also just start to

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notice that you're feeling, you know, getting a headache, y,

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like you're irritable. Maybe you're starting to feel a little

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snappy and short tempered because you're at capacity because you're

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kind of being pushed to your limit. And if you're

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feeling undervalued, I guess and unappreciated, if you're really starting

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to notice and feel like it's lopsided, like the amount

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that you're doing or contributing or helping out, or the

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effort that you're making is really not being reciprocated. There's

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an expectation that you're going to do it, or that

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you're going to carry the weight or do the thing,

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and without people, with people not even bothering to ask

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you what your needs are. They are so accustomed to

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you just going along or doing what they want to do.

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So that can be a bit of a red flag

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as well. So where do you draw the line and

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how do you go about setting some boundaries. So the

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first thing is to really recognize that helping out, doing

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things for other people is not a bad thing. It's

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a wonderful quality if you have that got that generosity

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and that willingness to help out, neglecting yourself and your

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own needs, or and I would add, not even knowing

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what your needs are or what your desires and preferences are.

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That is when we have a problem when you have

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difficulty saying no. Like I said, even if you would

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actually rather not do something, and you really feel like

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you don't have it in you, you find you really

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struggle with saying no. Well, that is that's a problem.

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So it can really help to first of all, get

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clear on what is important to you, like, what are

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the non negotiables for you? What are your values? How

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do you want to spend your time, what is it

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that you want to contribute what do you feel good doing,

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but also what is really important for you your family, whether

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it's your kids, and just knowing that upfront. The more

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that you're clear on that and the more you know

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what your priorities are, the easier it is going to

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be to say no to somebody else because in your

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mind you already know I can't do that unless there

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is extra space after I have attended to x YZ

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my stuff the things that are important to me.

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You can't do that.

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You can't know, and you're going to just be pulled

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in to everybody else's plans if you haven't got really

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clear on your own mind about what your priorities are.

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So you know, maybe if you're thinking ahead to the

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holidays and to time for Christmas and family events and

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family time, maybe you want to really start thinking about

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what would be really good for me. What is it

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that I want to do, Who are the people that

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I want to be with, how do I want to

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spend my time? And then if you start getting asked

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and pulled off into other things, do you have a

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basic framework where you can go Is that going to

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impact my plans my priorities? Am I willing to do that?

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To make that sacrifice and at least, you know, rather

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than being pulled off into everybody else's plans, saying yes

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to everybody else and then kind of working with the

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scraps of what's left over, what time is left over,

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to do what you want to do, you know, putting

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yourself last, putting yourself at the bottom of the pile,

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and only looking to you know, your needs after everybody

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else's needs have been taken care of. Let's just flip

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that straight away. Let's just put your needs at the

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top and then see what else you can fit in

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around that. Don't worry, it's not selfish. I know you're

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feeling guilty already about that.

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Oh my god, how could I do that?

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You can do that, trust me. It's still a room

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to be flexible. There's still room to make compromises. But

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you've got to start with you at the top of

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the pile, your needs, your priorities.

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And then the important thing.

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Is how you say no, and how you say no

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in a way that's kind and compassionate, that doesn't feel

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rude or impolite.

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Because no, that's your biggest fear if you're a people pleaser.

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And so it's practicing phrases like oh, we'd love to

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do that, but I'm sorry, I'm just I'm at capacity

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right now. I would love to do that, but in order.

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This is one that I learned years ago. I can't

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remember i've shared this with you guys, but I learned

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years ago. If somebody was asking me for my time,

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especially voluntarily, like oh, can we have a coffee?

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I want to pick your brain.

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Can you help me, you know, talk to me about

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what you're doing so because I want to do the

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same thing, like I used to get a lot of

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those kinds of requests. And what I learned was that

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is so lovely of you to think of me. Thank

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you so much. In order to honor my existing commitments.

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I'm really sorry. I'm going to have to say no

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to that, but I wish you all the best with

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whatever it is that you're doing.

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Write that down. That's a good one.

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I so appreciate you thinking of me in order to

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honor my existing commitments. I'm going to have to politely decline.

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I'm gonna have to say no, but I wish you

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all the best with that. It's good, right. So we

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practice these phrases. You've got to be able to pull

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out these phrases, and you know what the best one is.

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Let me go and check my calendar, Let me go

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check with my partner, Let me go check. I don't

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care who you got to check with, but buy some time.

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You have got to buy some time. If your instinctive reaction,

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if your instinct is to say yes immediately, oh yeah,

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of course I'd love to help, and you know, and

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then immediately go fuck, what did I say yes to that?

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Like I don't actually really want to do that. Then

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you need to start practicing taking a deep breath and saying, oh,

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that sounds interesting. Let me come back to you, Let

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me see what else is going on, Let me check

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the family calendar, let me see what other plans. Use

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your partner, if you need to use anybody, use your mother.

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I don't care.

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Buy time, go away. Really think about if that is

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something that you have capacity for. Really think about if

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that's going to compromise what you want to do with

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your time. You know your energy levels, and then make

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the decision about whether you can do that. And if

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you can't, well, then it's a so lovely of you

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to think of me in order to honor my existing commitments.

470
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I'm gonna have to say no or thank you. I

471
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would love to, but i'm so sorry, I'm at capacity

472
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right now, or we've got something else on whatever. But

473
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you are a polite no and you know sometimes you

474
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might say, oh, I'm so sorry I can't help you

475
00:23:57.319 --> 00:23:59.799
with that, but maybe there's somebody else that I could ask.

476
00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:03.160
Maybe I could refer you to somebody else. If that's

477
00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:05.599
easy thing for you to do, then by all means,

478
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do it. What I don't love about that is that

479
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it's almost taking on the responsibility of finding somebody to

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do that when it was never your responsibility to do

481
00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:16.240
that in the first place. So if it's easy for

482
00:24:16.319 --> 00:24:19.000
you to say, I'm not going to be able to

483
00:24:19.000 --> 00:24:20.839
do that, but how about you know what, I think

484
00:24:20.880 --> 00:24:23.400
I know somebody who might be able to help, especially

485
00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:26.160
like in the workplace or something. But I don't really

486
00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:29.799
love the offering to find somebody else and taking on

487
00:24:29.839 --> 00:24:33.480
the responsibility of finding somebody else. So just be careful

488
00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:36.319
about that. So fucking just some all of that up.

489
00:24:36.519 --> 00:24:39.599
People pleasing behavior stems from a whole lot of different

490
00:24:39.720 --> 00:24:44.240
kind of causes and conditions. It's psychological factors, it's social factors,

491
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and it's not necessarily a problem until it's a problem

492
00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:49.960
for you, until it leads to you compromising your own boundaries,

493
00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:54.000
depleting your own resources, and neglecting your own needs, or

494
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and I will add being out of touch with your

495
00:24:56.839 --> 00:24:59.240
own needs, because I think so many people say, no,

496
00:24:59.319 --> 00:25:01.680
it's not a problem, there's nothing else I'd rather do.

497
00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:04.319
But if I asked you what your needs are or

498
00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:06.440
where do you find joy or what's your self care

499
00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:09.319
or how do you like to spend your free time, then.

500
00:25:09.240 --> 00:25:10.799
You might say I'll get nothing.

501
00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:14.119
So as long as you are in touch with your

502
00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:17.359
own needs and you still feel like you have capacity, fine.

503
00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:19.640
The other thing that I want to say is that

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if your ultimate objective with people pleasing is to have

505
00:25:23.240 --> 00:25:26.200
harmonious relationships because you want to make people happy, you

506
00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:29.440
want to keep the peace, you want to maintain the friendship,

507
00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:31.640
then just remember that if you are saying yes when

508
00:25:31.680 --> 00:25:35.799
you really mean no, it's actually dishonest. It's inauthentic, and

509
00:25:36.359 --> 00:25:39.839
it's not a great foundation for a relationship. I mean,

510
00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:41.960
I could go as far as to say it's being

511
00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:44.400
dishonest with somebody in order.

512
00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:45.240
To win their approval.

513
00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:47.880
And I don't know that that's really the basis of

514
00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:50.480
a really healthy relationship. I don't think it's fair to

515
00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:53.640
the other person. They don't know if you genuinely don't

516
00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:55.720
want to do that, and they might be mortified to

517
00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:57.839
know that you're saying yes when you really would rather

518
00:25:57.880 --> 00:26:02.440
not do something. So in this spirit of having authentic relationships,

519
00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:05.599
not just peaceful relationships, for you're doing all of this

520
00:26:05.839 --> 00:26:10.480
sacrificing in order to keep that superficial piece. Genuinely authentic

521
00:26:10.559 --> 00:26:14.200
relationships would allow you to be really honest and authentic

522
00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:16.200
and an upfront about what you can do and what

523
00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:18.640
you can't do. It makes for a much more balanced relationship.

524
00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:21.160
Means the other person knows where they stand with you.

525
00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:24.680
It means that you're not having this fest during potentially

526
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:29.039
fest during kind of resentment, which often happens in relationships

527
00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:32.200
where there is a tendency for people pleasing you will

528
00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:34.920
give and give and give, but underneath the surface there

529
00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:41.319
is this kind of simmering resentment, feeling unappreciated, feeling undervalued,

530
00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:45.039
feeling like the relationship is not balanced, And ultimately that

531
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:47.880
is not good for any relationships, not just not good

532
00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:50.160
for you, it's actually not fair to the other person

533
00:26:50.279 --> 00:26:53.279
because they're not the one causing your people pleasing behavior.

534
00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:56.400
I mean, you know, unless they're abusive and really toxic,

535
00:26:57.319 --> 00:27:01.240
that's another story. So just can be helpful to reframe that,

536
00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:03.960
to actually step away from this idea that I'm just

537
00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:06.519
such a nice person and I do everything for everybody

538
00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:08.799
and I'm the one who does everything in this relationship

539
00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:11.240
and they don't appreciate me, and actually go o, well, actually,

540
00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:13.880
you know what, I'm the one being dishonest here. I'm

541
00:27:13.880 --> 00:27:17.079
the one not being upfront. I'm the one being inauthentic.

542
00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:20.039
And then I'm carrying this resentment towards this person and

543
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:23.079
they don't even know it because I'm not expressing it

544
00:27:23.079 --> 00:27:25.240
doesn't sound so nice then, does it? Like it doesn't

545
00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:28.480
actually sound so kind hearted. So just remember saying no.

546
00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:30.799
It doesn't make you selfish. It makes you honest. It

547
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:33.359
makes you somebody who can be relied upon to be truthful.

548
00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:35.960
It means that people know where they stand with you,

549
00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:39.599
and most people will appreciate that. It means that people

550
00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:43.079
don't have to guess whether you're okay to do something

551
00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:45.680
or you're not. I mean, generally people want to know

552
00:27:46.359 --> 00:27:49.240
good friends. You know good people. They want to know

553
00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:52.720
how you really feel, and they want to know if

554
00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:54.920
they're crossing a line, if they're expecting too much of you.

555
00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:58.000
They don't want you doing things that you genuinely don't

556
00:27:58.000 --> 00:27:59.640
want to do or you don't have capacity to do,

557
00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:02.680
and they don't want you neglecting your needs for their sake.

558
00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:06.119
So it's okay. You know it is okay, and it

559
00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:08.160
is a good thing for you to be honest about

560
00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:10.599
your needs. If it's a quality relationship, you're not going

561
00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:14.319
to upset anybody. So just make sure that you're prioritizing

562
00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:16.880
your needs, that you're very clear upfront with what's important

563
00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:19.559
to you. Everybody else can fit in around that, not

564
00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:22.000
the other way around. I really hope that that's helpful

565
00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:24.839
as you go into the holiday season particularly, or anywhere else,

566
00:28:24.880 --> 00:28:27.480
that this might be relevant and applicable in your life

567
00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:30.039
right now or in the future. And remember, you are

568
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:33.079
not responsible for other people's happiness at the cost of

569
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:36.079
your own. If saying yes to somebody else is saying

570
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:38.920
no to you, then it's not worth it.

571
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I really hope that you have enjoyed this episode.

572
00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:45.680
I'm back next week with a really interesting interview with

573
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:50.359
a woman who basically healed from her childhood trauma using MDMA.

574
00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:53.079
Such an interesting story. I know that you're going to

575
00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:55.880
love it. I hope that you'll tune in for that one.

576
00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:58.680
I can't wait to catch you next week to that

577
00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:01.920
fabulous episode of Crappy to Happy