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This is Crappita Happy, and I am your host, Cas Done.
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I'm a clinical and coaching psychologist. I'm mindfulness meditation teacher
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and of course, author of the Crappita Happy books. In
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this show, I bring you conversations with interesting, inspiring, intelligent
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people who are experts in their field and who have
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something of value to share that will help you feel
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less crappy and more happy. Welcome to another solo episode
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of Crappita Happy. It feels like ages since I have
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done one of these, and that's because it has been
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ages since I've done one of these. I had a
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few weeks off unplanned. I was just kind of focused
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on what I am planning for next year for the podcast.
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I thought you wouldn't miss me too much. I'm very
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happy to be back and have brought you some really
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interesting interviews. I've got some great ones coming up, but
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I wanted to talk to you now because we're at
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that time of year. We're coming into Christmas. It can
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be a lovely time, it can also be an incredibly
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stressful time, and I just wanted to make sure that
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I am back in your ears reminding you of the
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things that are important to do. With boundaries and self
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care and rest. So this week I wanted to talk
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to you about people pleasing how don't know if it's
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a problem, what you can do about it, and you
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know how you can just.
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Keep it in check.
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And I think particularly at this time of year, when
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there's a lot of demands on your time, there's a
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lot of requests for time, effort, resources, energy contributing to
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various things, attending things, And if you are a person
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who has a tendency to say yes when you'd really
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like to say no, or even if you're a person
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who says yes because you just love to say yes
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and you love to help, and you love to do
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all the things and be a part of things, and
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you're more happy to help and it makes you happy
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to make other people happy. If you're one of those types,
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I just want to remind you that sometimes it can
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be really useful to make sure that you are looking
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after yourself at the same time and just constantly checking
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in with yourself to make sure that you are not
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crossing your own line and potentially doing for others at
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the detriment of yourself.
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So I'm going to keep this short and sweet.
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I just want to remind you people pleasing is the
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tendency to prioritize other people's needs, their desires, you know,
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their preferences, what they would like from you, at the
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expense of your own wellbeing.
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Now you may say, well.
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You know, it's not at the expense of my well being.
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I'm doing things for others because I really enjoy it.
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And if that's the case, then happy for you.
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Like go you.
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There are definitely people like that in the world who
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just really love to help and who are more than
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willing to contribute. The world needs people like that. It
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can get really tricky, though, when you may be so
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accustomed to doing for others, accommodating others, being a team player, contributing,
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doing your share, helping out people, seeing where people need help,
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responding to calls for help. You've kind of even lost
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touch with maybe what you need and what you would
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prefer to do, so that could be potentially another conversation.
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But it can be agreeing to do extra work even
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if your plate is full. It can be always being
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the person to park your own needs or put things
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aside to help.
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Out somebody else. And while that is really a nice.
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Quality to have, it can also be driven by a
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fear of criticism or rejection, a fear of conflict, not
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wanting to upset somebody or hurt somebody's feelings, So saying
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yes even when you would rather say no because you're
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afraid of the fallout and just a fear of being
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rejected or being disliked or just upsetting somebody generally. So
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let's have a talk about if that is the case
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for you, like where that might come from. To be honest,
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it probably doesn't even really matter, but we all have
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this instinctive kind of desire to want to know, well,
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what made me like this? Why am I like this?
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Why can't I change this? Why can't I fix this?
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I think it's much more important to focus on is
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this serving me? Do I need to make a change here?
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You know?
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What might I do differently and what might be some
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tools and strategies that I might be able to adopt
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to prevent me from continually going down this path? However,
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we you know, some people really like to have some
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insight into where it comes from and where it stems from,
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because that can help you to recognize it and to
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understand in the moment what's actually going on, so that
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you can feel more in control of your own choices
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and make more empowered choices about how you spend your
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time and effort and energy and money and all of
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your resources. So oftentimes people pleasing grows out of as
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you can imagine, growing up in a family environment where
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your approval was conditional on well, just conditional full stop,
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where you had to make sure that whatever you were
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doing was keeping other people happy. You are having to
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modify your behavior, be acquiescent, be pleasant, just be good,
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you know, be good, be helpful, be polite, do the
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right thing. You know, these kinds of messages growing up,
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and if you were really not really given that freedom
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to express your opinion, to exert your own needs, there
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was this expectation that that is what is required of
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you in order to keep the peace and keep the
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family happy and make sure that Mum and dad or
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cares or whoever, that they would give you that positive
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feedback that as a child you so desperately want and need. Then,
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as you can imagine that that leads to later on
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just having this be your automatic pattern, your default to
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go to, always wanting to just make sure that you're
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looking after other people and making sure everybody else is happy.
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So you know, if in your family you were always
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approved of because you were being helpful, you were chipping in,
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you were pulling your weight, you were the one that was,
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you know, keeping things clean and picking up after people
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even when others weren't, and that's what got you validation,
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and that's what you were positively reinforced for when that
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can really embed that kind of pattern of behavior in
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other situations. It could be that there was violence, there
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was tension, there was conflict in the family, and so
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it was very much a survival strategy to just be pleasant,
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be quiet, be agreeable. You know, only you know what
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sort of dynamics were going on in your own family home.
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And it's not just in your family home. It's at school,
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it's and in your peer groups. It's as you grow up,
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and these messages continue to be reinforced. It's interesting that
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Spotify rapped just came out and which was just so
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gratifying to see the numbers Spotify listeners. If you are
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a Spotify listener high, but the vast majority of crappy
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to happy listeners listen, according to our stats, listen over
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on Apple, so Spotify counts for less than twenty percent,
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like more like fifteen percent of total listeners. So to
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see the podcast being in the top five podcasts for
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two thousand listeners on Spotify when Spotify counts for such
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a small percentage overall, it's just so heartwarming and just
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really reinforced my passion for the show and my desire
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to continue to make content and create the podcast and
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in a way that continues to be really helpful and relevant.
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I'm getting off topic.
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I just wanted to say that, but what I'm gonna
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say was on Spotify Wrapped, the number one most downloaded
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episode was the episode that I did on Schemers and
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Schemer Therapy, which is kind of interesting. So I'll put
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that in the show notes if you want to go
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back and listen if you missed it. But according to
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the stats, a lot of people listen to that episode.
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But you may recall that one of the schemers that
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you know, one of the many schemers that can be
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really unhelpful, is a self sacrifice schemer, and there's a
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subjugation schemer as well. So these are like when you
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grow up with the worldview and this, you adopt this
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pattern of thinking and behavior that is all about suppressing
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your own needs for the sake of others, sacrificing your
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own needs, subjugating your own desires and preferences for the
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sake of others in the service of keeping other people happy.
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So you may well have that kind of schema running.
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Many people do, and that's playing out as this kind
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of people pleasing behavior. There are certain personality traits that
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are linked to people pleasing. If you are familiar with
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the Big five, the Big five personality traits if you
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remember the what is the word not anagram, the acronym
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If you remember the acronym ocean, oce an, openness to experience, conscientiousness, extraversion, agreeableness,
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and neuroticism. So they are the Big five. Everybody has
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a combination of those Big five personality traits. They're kind
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of the core human personality traits. If you are high
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in agreeableness, if that is just part of your natural personality,
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which again is lovely, cooperative, helpful, get along with people
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you know, friendly, can also rate highly for people pleasing.
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So it's like it's almost like a strength that is
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being overplayed. That tendency to foster positive relationships can be
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overplayed to the point of actually sacrificing your own needs.
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So again that's not a bad thing. Agreeableness is a
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great quality to have, but it is about how it's
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being expressed and to what kind of level. If you're
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a person who's just naturally empathetic, if you naturally kind
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of feel what other people feel, and you have that
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natural inclination to want to help when you see suffering,
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what you see somebody having a hard time, well, then
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that can also predispose you to this kind of people
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pleasing behavior. Again, admirable, like really lovely to want to help,
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And it's not about the wanting to help, and then
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everybody should just like stop doing that. It is about
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knowing where the line is and when this behavior starts
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to undermine your own needs and preferences, when it is
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starting to come at a cost to you. People who
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have an anxious attachment style. Again, attachment styles is one
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of the most popular episodes that I've done in the past.
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You may recall that people with an anxious attachment style,
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who if you've grown up in family environment where you
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never quite knew if that love and approval was going
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to be there or if it wasn't going to be so,
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if somebody is just emotionally avoidant. If a caregiver is
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emotionally avoidant and unavailable, well that will lead to you
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being most likely having a kind of an avoidant attachment style,
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which means you sort of shut off your own emotional
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needs and your own attachment needs because you've learned that
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your needs aren't going to be met. So it's not
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that you don't have attachment needs, it's just that you
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shut them down for your own survival, your own sort
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of emotional and psychological survival, and you become very self
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reliant and very independent. Now another version, another variation of
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insecure attachment is this anxious attachment style, and this is
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where caregivers are either inconsistently available. It's like then you
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never quite know what you're going to get, or they
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can sometimes come with very intrusive parenting, whether kind of
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in your business all the time, almost maybe even looking
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for you to satisfy their needs, you know, looking for
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you to keep them emotionally regulated. So that can also
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lead to an anxious attachment style, which manifests often as
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this like really hyper alertness to cues of rejection or criticism,
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like really being hyper alert to any sign that somebody
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may be not happy with you, and whether it's in
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an email or a text or just a facial expression,
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the anxious attachment style is kind of this constant reassurance seeking,
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this looking for somebody to reassure you all the time
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that they do care for you and that they are
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there for you, and that they do like you, and
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they want to be your friend or they want to
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be in a relationship with you and of course they
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love you and no, they're not having an affair, and
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you know, because it can lead to this kind of
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jealousy and clingliness. And I guess the other thing with
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the anxious attachment style is that it is it's really
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hard for that reassurance to land. So no matter how
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many times somebody tells you, no, it's fine, of course
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I love you, I want to be with you, of
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course i'm your friend, it's like, oh, that makes you
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feel better temporarily, but then that anxiety comes up again.
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It's like really hard to hold. So it's is constant
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proximity seeking reassurance seeking, which you know, ironically can sometimes
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then drive people away and become like a self fulfilling
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prophecy almost. But you can imagine it makes sense that
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that kind of anxious attachment style may well lead to
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people pleasing kinds of behaviors, like always wanting to make
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sure that you're looking after the other person and doing
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everything for them and making sure that they're okay in
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order to shore up their affection for you, in order
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to make sure that they're going to not leave you,
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that they want to stay with you, making yourself really