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This is Crappy to Happy and I am your host,
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Cas Dunn. I'm a clinical and coaching psychologist and mindfulness
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meditation teacher and of course author of the Crappy to
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Happy books. In this show, I bring you conversations with interesting, inspiring,
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intelligent people who are experts in their field and who
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have something of value to share that will help you
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feel less crappy and more happy. Hello and welcome to
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another solo episode of Crappy to Happy, and I promise
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you I will be back with guests very soon. But
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like I said last week, for just the next couple
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of weeks, I'm focusing on solo episodes while I'm quite
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busy with a kickoff of my Beyond Confident group coaching program.
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Have a lovely group of women who have just joined
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me for that pro and I'm very excited to work
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with them over the next few months. Now. Speaking of coaching,
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I myself have been engaging in some professional development to
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upschill myself as a coach and also to learn skills
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and tools that I can pass on to you and
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to pass on to my own clients. And in the
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context of running your own business or running a coaching business,
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we were asked to do an activity which was all
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about telling your story, like telling the story of how
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you came to be where you are now. If you've
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ever seen any online marketers or even just people in
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the media, people who write books, and they always have
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this kind of very coherent story about how they came
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to be doing what they're doing, or how what they've
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had to overcome to get to this point which has
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led them to doing the thing that they're doing. So
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it's a very a typical kind of process I guess
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that you would do in this context of telling people
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who you are and what you do in business, but
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we all do this in our lives all the time.
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And there is a whole theory called narrative identity theory,
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which is essentially the story that you tell about who
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you are based on your life, and how you recall
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and reconstruct and edit the experiences of your life to
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create this kind of narrative about where you have come from,
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where you are now, and where you see yourself going
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in the future. So that is something that I had
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already been really exploring in terms of coaching, the works
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that I do in coaching and the stories that we
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tell ourselves about ourselves and the stories in the way
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that we identify with certain aspects of our story. And
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that's I guess what I want to talk to you
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about today in this episode, because I think it's really
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interesting and it's really useful to have some understanding of this.
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So it's just interesting that it came up also in
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the context of business and having to kind of come
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up with a three men diversion of how you came
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to be doing what you're doing, and it is really
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interesting to go through that process if you've never done
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it yourself. It was interesting to do that in with
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other people, like kind of hearing each other's stories and
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giving each other feedback about which bits of the story
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seem to be more relevant or what I wanted to
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hear more about, and for other people to say the
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same thing to me, like I think that was an
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interesting turning point, or maybe you could say more about that.
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It's just a really interesting process to go through, so
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whether in business or just in terms of how you
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recall your own personal life story, and that's what I
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want to really focus on today. I guess the other
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thing that I've noticed is or I've just been recalling
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recently is certain people who I have met or come across,
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and you would have as well, who really have an
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identity around certain things that they've experienced in life, Like
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they've certain things that they've overcome, if they had a
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really difficult childhood, if they were in a horrific accident,
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or if they maybe have a disability or some sort
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of disadvantage. And while everybody has these experiences in their lives,
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sometimes people really strongly amplify one aspect of their story
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and it becomes really integral to their sense of who
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they are, where they are in life, Like when they
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make meaning of their life, they really give this particular
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incident or experience like a lot of weight. And I
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think that's really interesting too, because I think that is
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where there is room to go in and find ways
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to retell that story or find different perspectives around that
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story that might give you a different experience or a
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different view, you know, of how you see yourself and
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what the possibilities might be for you going forward. Because
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the story that you tell yourself about what brought you
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to this point in your life, where you're at now,
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and where you're going, they're all really shaped by the
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bits of your story that you emphasize and the bits
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that you diminish, sure you push aside or don't give
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any weight to look the same story, the same experience
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by two different people, they could have a whole different
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interpretation of what that means. Or you know, what they've
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done with that and how they've interpreted that can give
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you a whole different sense of yourself, who you are
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and what is possible for you. Dan mccadams is an
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author who and a researcher in psychology who has written
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a lot about this, and I think he's the one
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who developed this narrative identity theory, and essentially it is
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the way we reconstruct I'm going to read this so
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I get it right. Narrative identity reconstructs the autobiographical past
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and imagines the future in such a way as to
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provide a person's life with some degree of unity, purpose
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and meaning. So, therefore, your life story, the way you
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tell your life story synthesizes your episodic memory. So what
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has happened with your envisioned goals, where you're going, where
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you've been, where you're going, creating a coherent account of
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identity in time, So we come up with this, with
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this coherent narrative, this coherent sequence of events that describes
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and gives meaning to Basically, it's how we make sense
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of our life and where we are in time. And
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obviously it evolves and it changes over time, and it
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evolves because your life is continuing to evolve. The story
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is not over clearly, but it also evolves with the
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way that you revisit and reconstruct and reimagine or think
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about things in a different way from what you maybe
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have in the past. And so often this is the
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work of therapy for people, for people who go into psychotherapy,
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there's a lot of work to be done here around
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telling your story, recalling your life story and the meaning
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that you've made of that or what you think that
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says about you or how that's impacted you, but then
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being able to revisit that and pull something different from
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that story, take a different perspective, and have that help
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you to reshape where you see yourself now and your
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personal qualities. And it all contributes to your psychological wellbeing.
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And there are particular themes if they come up in
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your narrative identity story, then they are associated with higher
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levels of psychological well being and That's what I want
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to share with you today because I want to you
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to go away and think about your story and where
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maybe you could reimagine some things, or reconsider some aspects
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of your story and think about things in a different
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way to give you enhanced psychological wellbeing, increased sense of
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your own agency and personal power, and you know, just
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a stronger sense of self and your own resilience, your
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own personal qualities. Yeah, so useful, useful stuff. So our
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narrative identity starts to develop in late adolescents. I think
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it starts a little earlier with girls. I'm not across
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all the research. I'm the first to admit that I'm
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not an expert in this, but I think there are
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some key ideas which are just generally useful to understand.
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So our story, I guess, our personal story, our life story,
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starts to evolve during adolescence and late adolescents. You know,
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as little kids will probably tell stories about ourselves. But
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this whole sense of self, like who I am in
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the world, that really starts to emerge in late adolescence
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and into our early twenties. And I guess that is
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when we have to start telling people. People start asking us,
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where do we want to be in a few years time,
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or what are we envisioned for ourselves? Or who are
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we and wherever we come from? And what's brought you
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to this point? And we have to start telling our
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story to people. And therefore, each time we tell our
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story to people, we're constructing it in our own mind,
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and we're choosing all of the time which bits are important,
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which bits are relevant, which parts make sense in this story,
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or which are irrelevant. That was the interesting thing about
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the business exercise for me, like which bits of this
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story are relevant? Because as you know, we have a long, complicated,
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messy personal history and lots of tangents, and picking out,
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pulling our key points and building it into like this neat, little,
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succinct story is really challenging because none of us have
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got a neat little story that just makes perfect sense.
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So we're always privileging certain parts of it and emphasizing
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certain parts and kind of you know, downplaying other parts
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of it. But it is kind of interesting to reflect
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on which are the parts that we pull out and
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emphasize on, which are the parts that we that we
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don't that we kind of diminish or wash over a little,
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you know, gloss over. But the stories that we tell
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integrate our lives and they give us a sense of
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who we are. And our story can be like I
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said before, it can be edited and it can be
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revised all the time. And part of that is a
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social process. It comes from having conversations with other people,
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sharing your story, getting feedback, having people ask you questions,
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having people whether it's just socially in your personal relationships,
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or if it is in something you know very directly
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self reflective like therapy or like coaching or something like that,
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where you intentionally take the time to reflect on your story,
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then it can be shaped and reshaped over time. But
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your life story is a psychological resource. If you have
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a positive life story, a positive sense of yourself, of
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where you've been, particularly if you've overcome challenges, you know,
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what you've achieved in life, it's brought you to where
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you are today, what you have established in your life,
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and a positive sense of where you're going. That's really
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a great psychological resource. It really bolsters your well being.
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Like I said, but you know, sometimes we have had
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negative experiences, and then how you make sense of those
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negative experiences can really have a big impact on your happiness,
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your well being, your sense of personal agency, where you're
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going on your health and well being overall. And I
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did look at some of the research, but if you
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were to sit down with somebody, or if you even
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sit down yourself, and if you were to draw the
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timeline of your life from birth until now into the
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future with where you potentially see yourself going in the future,
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and if you were to kind of plot the timeline
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of your life up until this point, not minute by
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minute obviously, but even some people will ask you to
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identify key positive experiences and significant negative experiences, So the
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ones that really jump out at you as being moments
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of achievement or success or happiness, big milestones in life
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that are positive. And then also things were really difficult
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or challenging, crisis that you might have gone through, challenges
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that you went through, you might plot those as well,
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and you start to form a story. Another way to
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do it is to kind of look at your life
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in as a series of chapters, like almost like a
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little subheadings of periods of time in your life and
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whether they were overall positive or negative, or what the
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theme or the flavor was of that particular period. Of
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your life. And the way they do this in therapy
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and research is they will have you tell your story
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and then they kind of code the language that you use. So,
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but you can do this yourself. I mean you can
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do it with journaling. You can do it just in
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your own mind. I think journaling is a really helpful
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tool to use for something like this. Obviously, if you've
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got a therapist or a coach, then this can be
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a useful thing to do. And if you're in my
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coaching program, you can bloody be sure that we'll be
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doing some of this work. This will be my new
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favorite tool that I want to use. So you plot
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these plot your life and you pull out the key
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themes and then you talk about what happened and what
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that meant to you, and so the particular kinds of theme.
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So the kind of language that somebody will be looking
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for will be first of all about agency. So how
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much you express a sense of personal agency in the
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things that you have gone through, in where you see
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yourself now, where you'll see yourself in the future. If
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it's clear that there is a lot of evidence that
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you you have seen yourself as having a lot of
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personal control, sense of feeling empowered in your own story,
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being able to be self determined, make your own decisions
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and choose what you want to do and the decisions
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that you want to make in life. That is associated
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with really high levels of psychological wellbeing. So if you
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don't have that, if there's a theme or a flavor